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Old 04-04-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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[ab]Report confirms aggravated assault down by 36.5%

Following a crackdown on illegal immigration, officials in Prince William County in northern Virginia are reporting their numbers reveal a significant decrease in violent crimes committed. [/b]

The violent crime rate in Prince William County plummeted 22 percent in 2008, according to new reports.

In recent years, the county had experienced a steady influx of illegal immigrants that led to its development of one of the most aggressive immigration policies in the nation.


Crackdown on illegals produces crime decline

Imagine how much the percentage of violent crimes would decline if we were able to get rid of 95% of them.
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Old 04-04-2009, 10:29 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Well, we won't know until we accomplish that mission.
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Old 04-04-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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[ab]Report confirms aggravated assault down by 36.5%

Following a crackdown on illegal immigration, officials in Prince William County in northern Virginia are reporting their numbers reveal a significant decrease in violent crimes committed. [/b]

The violent crime rate in Prince William County plummeted 22 percent in 2008, according to new reports.

In recent years, the county had experienced a steady influx of illegal immigrants that led to its development of one of the most aggressive immigration policies in the nation.


Crackdown on illegals produces crime decline

Imagine how much the percentage of violent crimes would decline if we were able to get rid of 95% of them.
How much would the percentage of violent crimes decline if we could get rid of 100 percent of them?

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Police last year also began tracking the immigration status of every individual the department arrested. Statistics show that of the 1,802 people arrested last year for murder, rape, robbery, assault, burglary, larceny and car theft, 63 of them were illegal immigrants
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Five illegal immigrants were charged with violent crimes, one with rape and four with aggravated assault.
There's a reason sites like worldnetdaily like to use real stats, but write their own stories around those stats.

Are there some illegals who commit crime? Sure.
Are all of those "some" murdering and raping? No..probably few.
Would crime drop dramatically with 0 illegal immigrants? Yeah, there'd be a few less crimes, but utopia it wouldn't be. And the drop in crime wouldn't be very "dramatic".

And before the regulars with the typical argument creep out the woodwork, I'm not 'justifying' illegal crime. It happens. And I see violent criminals like other violent criminals. Citizen, illegal. Whatever. They're ALL crimes that "shouldn't happen".

But lets not twist information and pretend that they are all, or even most of them, rapists and murderers. Let's stick to the actual problems illegal immigrants present(impact on the infrastructure of the country, etc).
Let's not go the route of sensationalism, and make them out to be barbarians.
That's detrimental to your guys' argument. Makes it hard to take you guys seriously.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:17 PM
 
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How much would the percentage of violent crimes decline if we could get rid of 100 percent of them?

There's a reason sites like worldnetdaily like to use real stats, but write their own stories around those stats.

Are there some illegals who commit crime? Sure.
Are all of those "some" murdering and raping? No..probably few.
Would crime drop dramatically with 0 illegal immigrants? Yeah, there'd be a few less crimes, but utopia it wouldn't be. And the drop in crime wouldn't be very "dramatic".

And before the regulars with the typical argument creep out the woodwork, I'm not 'justifying' illegal crime. It happens. And I see violent criminals like other violent criminals. Citizen, illegal. Whatever. They're ALL crimes that "shouldn't happen".

But lets not twist information and pretend that they are all, or even most of them, rapists and murderers. Let's stick to the actual problems illegal immigrants present(impact on the infrastructure of the country, etc).
Let's not go the route of sensationalism, and make them out to be barbarians.
That's detrimental to your guys' argument. Makes it hard to take you guys seriously.
Great post, but you will likely get attacked for pointing the facts out.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Great post, but you will likely get attacked for pointing the facts out.
More than likely, definitely will.
They'll forget that it was being insinuated that illegals were committing most of those crimes.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Originally Posted by antialphabet View Post
How much would the percentage of violent crimes decline if we could get rid of 100 percent of them?

There's a reason sites like worldnetdaily like to use real stats, but write their own stories around those stats.

Are there some illegals who commit crime? Sure.
Are all of those "some" murdering and raping? No..probably few.
Would crime drop dramatically with 0 illegal immigrants? Yeah, there'd be a few less crimes, but utopia it wouldn't be. And the drop in crime wouldn't be very "dramatic".

And before the regulars with the typical argument creep out the woodwork, I'm not 'justifying' illegal crime. It happens. And I see violent criminals like other violent criminals. Citizen, illegal. Whatever. They're ALL crimes that "shouldn't happen".

But lets not twist information and pretend that they are all, or even most of them, rapists and murderers. Let's stick to the actual problems illegal immigrants present(impact on the infrastructure of the country, etc).
Let's not go the route of sensationalism, and make them out to be barbarians.
That's detrimental to your guys' argument. Makes it hard to take you guys seriously.
Could you please post a link to those statistics you posted? I did not see them in the article.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by antialphabet View Post
How much would the percentage of violent crimes decline if we could get rid of 100 percent of them?

There's a reason sites like worldnetdaily like to use real stats, but write their own stories around those stats.

Are there some illegals who commit crime? Sure.
Are all of those "some" murdering and raping? No..probably few.
Would crime drop dramatically with 0 illegal immigrants? Yeah, there'd be a few less crimes, but utopia it wouldn't be. And the drop in crime wouldn't be very "dramatic".

And before the regulars with the typical argument creep out the woodwork, I'm not 'justifying' illegal crime. It happens. And I see violent criminals like other violent criminals. Citizen, illegal. Whatever. They're ALL crimes that "shouldn't happen".

But lets not twist information and pretend that they are all, or even most of them, rapists and murderers. Let's stick to the actual problems illegal immigrants present(impact on the infrastructure of the country, etc).
Let's not go the route of sensationalism, and make them out to be barbarians.
That's detrimental to your guys' argument. Makes it hard to take you guys seriously.
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Great post, but you will likely get attacked for pointing the facts out.
Irrelevant:

I can safely say that 100% of all illegal aliens age 18+ are criminals factoring in ID theft, etc. and a large minority of same are violent to boot.

Again: we have our homegrown trash and certainly do not need additional imports.
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Old 04-04-2009, 03:59 PM
 
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Irrelevant:

I can safely say that 100% of all illegal aliens age 18+ are criminals factoring in ID theft, etc. and a large minority of same are violent to boot.

Again: we have our homegrown trash and certainly do not need additional imports.

YAWN..............
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Could you please post a link to those statistics you posted? I did not see them in the article.
Of course you didn't see them in that article..it was written by the hacks at sites like worldnetdaily that take figures from reliable, legit news sources, and spin their own biased stories around them without linking to a real news site where they got their info.

This is the full story:

Violent crime on decline in Prince William County | InsideNova.com (http://www.insidenova.com/isn/news/crime/article/violent_crime_on_decline_in_prince_william_county/32982/ - broken link)
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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Irrelevant:

I can safely say that 100% of all illegal aliens age 18+ are criminals factoring in ID theft, etc. and a large minority of same are violent to boot.

Again: we have our homegrown trash and certainly do not need additional imports.
1001--------------------------------------and counting.
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