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Enemy? They aren't the enemy. They are just trying to make a better life for themselves. Quite honestly, I would do the same if I were living in poverty and had easy access to come over the border and give my kids a better life.
But, I agree that if this is a problem, the border is the issue, but let's not blame people for trying to have a better life.
Dawn
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Sounds like we need to bring our troops home and have them protect our borders. The enemy isn't in Iraq, there here in our neighborhoods.
So many illegals......they have there own businesses and many other are catering specifically to illegals. At the current pace America is going we will be a first world country on the media only. The people living every day lives below the CEO level will be reduced to the lower class a have a murky existance of the many illegals now. America will move toward a 3 world country county with the absortpion of illegals huge debts welcome to Merica
Enemy? They aren't the enemy. They are just trying to make a better life for themselves. Quite honestly, I would do the same if I were living in poverty and had easy access to come over the border and give my kids a better life.
But, I agree that if this is a problem, the border is the issue, but let's not blame people for trying to have a better life.
Dawn
If we don't defend our finances, our property and our way of life our country could be overtaken by the illegal residents that are already here. That was my point. We don't need to be fighting an "unknown enemy" in another country when we have people right here in our own backyards that are defeating our economy. And, yes when they take our jobs, use our government services, refuse to pay taxes and register as legal residents they are the enemy.
Enemy? They aren't the enemy. They are just trying to make a better life for themselves. Quite honestly, I would do the same if I were living in poverty and had easy access to come over the border and give my kids a better life.
But, I agree that if this is a problem, the border is the issue, but let's not blame people for trying to have a better life.
Dawn
I could easily have a better life if I were to start car jacking people for a living. Would you blame me for trying?
Lets say you live in a neighborhood and there is a natural disaster of some kind, like a tornado. You have one of the only houses that was untouched by the tornado, but most of your neighbors who are your friends and family survived the tornado but lost their homes.
You have an extra room in your house, so you would probably take in a family member or close friends. What about the hundred other people that come to your door needing shelter? Yes you feel bad for them but you cannot possibly provide food and shelter for the rest of these people. Many would have to be turned away for you to continue to survive.
Kind of the position America is in. We cannot continue to import poverty and continue accept people because of other nations failures. Where do we stop? There are many countries that have far worse problems than Mexico. Why should Mexicans or other nationalities have an advantage over other people?
I agree that the border must be controlled first, but I am also aware that many enter this country legally but with the intent to stay past their visas, which doesnt make it any better.
Enemy? They aren't the enemy. They are just trying to make a better life for themselves. Quite honestly, I would do the same if I were living in poverty and had easy access to come over the border and give my kids a better life.
But, I agree that if this is a problem, the border is the issue, but let's not blame people for trying to have a better life.
Dawn
The quality of my children's lives and all of those of us who are here legally should not suffer because of it.
You're right. I approve of our country's altruistic ventures to help the less fortunate but we can't take them on as our own problems. We are not the wealthy, strong nation we once were and it's because we have partially exhausted our resources. How many more families can we afford to put on the already stressed Food Stamp Program or the Medicaid Program? Do the math...economics 101. Someone has to be putting into the system for everyone who is taking from it. When an "anchor child" is born in the US and instantly becomes a citizen he/she is eligible for Medicaid and Food Stamps. The Food Stamp allotment for that child is then based on the family size, so if there are ten other family member the allotment is eleven, not one. That's a lot of mouths to feed just because a child happened to be born here. And, that's a heck of an award for a family who broke the law by entering the country illegally.
If they want to do it the right way that's great. Become a citizen, get a job, pay taxes, learn the language and the laws.
Location: Some got six month some got one solid. But me and my buddies all got lifetime here
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Enemy? They aren't the enemy. They are just trying to make a better life for themselves. Quite honestly, I would do the same if I were living in poverty and had easy access to come over the border and give my kids a better life.
But, I agree that if this is a problem, the border is the issue, but let's not blame people for trying to have a better life.
Dawn
They're an enemy to every decent, hard working person who can't get a "get by" job because of illegals lowballing the markets. They're an enemy to the economy when they take as much money as they can and toss it back to their families in other countries (i.e. Mexico) as opposed to funneling it back into their communities or the state. They're an enemy to every cop or fire fighter who puts his or her life on the line for somebody who shouldn't be here in the first place. This country's foundation was built on the backs of hard working immigrants, not the leeches of society floating in on rafts and ducking the INS.
Back in New Jersey they'd be hanging around in groups outside of 7/11's, Dunkin' Donuts, morning deli type places. If they weren't hanging outside then the businesses that would hire them would be waiting in the lots. If I had my way I'd make it against the law for that kind of solicitation and hold the lot owner responsible.
And if you came over here illegally, regardless of the reason, I'd certainly expect you to be tossed out with the rest of them.
I still say fingers are being pointed in the wrong direction.
And what exactly are YOU doing to stop this? It seems that I hear a LOT of complaining and a lot of anger and hostility toward "those people" but I don't see a lot of action. Are you lobbying? Writing letters to congress? Better yet, are you educating the ones who are now here and staying so that they can be contributing members of society in the future?
Is illegal immigration an issue? Yes, it is. But nothing will change from sitting back and complaining.
Location: Some got six month some got one solid. But me and my buddies all got lifetime here
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I still say fingers are being pointed in the wrong direction.
And what exactly are YOU doing to stop this? It seems that I hear a LOT of complaining and a lot of anger and hostility toward "those people" but I don't see a lot of action. Are you lobbying? Writing letters to congress? Better yet, are you educating the ones who are now here and staying so that they can be contributing members of society in the future?
Is illegal immigration an issue? Yes, it is. But nothing will change from sitting back and complaining.
Dawn
How are fingers being pointed in the wrong direction?
And no, I don't want to educate the ones that are staying here to become future contributing members of society. That George Bush anmesty program is a load of b.s.. I want them thrown the hell out and then have them come back in as tax paying citizens. They can become future contributing members that way. Writing a letter to congress will do no good. What will do good is voting out the politicians who choose to turn the blind eye.
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