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Old 03-30-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default In the Bush immigration plan, would all illegal aliens in America become legal?

Much of the talk about the various "comprehensive immigration plans" that are being debated in Congress talk about what to do with the 12-20 million illegal aliens who are currently in the country. The supporters of the plan say that the currently illegal residents of America would be sent to the back of the line and would not become citizens unless they paid a fine and went through a background check, etc.

Once the plan is signed by the President will everyone who is in the USA illegally today become legal (but not citizens) instantly? I am not talking about being a citizen I am talking about their legal status the moment the comprehensive immigration bill is signed. Can they still be deported, will they still be illegal aliens until they are approved guest workers? Will they be able to work legally while they wait for their guest worker application to be filed and possibly approved? Will there be no such thing as an illegal alien anymore?

I hear that they (the 12-20 million illegal aliens) can apply for a special Visa but the devil is in the details. It would take years for everyone to register for the special Visa and have their background checked. It would be chaos. What about the people who sneak across the border after the bill is signed, will they also be legal, even though they are not registered guest workers?

I have researched this and can not find any details about this? The devil is in the details!
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They wouldn't be granted citizenship and from what I understand, they wouldn't be required to leave. Also, the plan is essentially unenforceable (requires too much manpower). And without greater border security, we'll find ourselves in the same mess, 10-15 years down the road. This bill doesn't fix any of the basic problems (border security, corrupt employers). It's a PR move, not a solution.
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Here's a link to a CNN article on the proposal.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/30/immigration.ap/ (broken link)

I have not seen the proposal in writing. So my comments are second hand.
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Old 03-30-2007, 04:44 PM
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Default No articles on the topic really answer my questions

I have looked into the topic on the Internet and can not find anything that gives the type of detail I would need to make an educated decision on the proposal. Yet all these people are coming out to support a plan with no public details.

Again, with any immigration plan, the devil is in the details.
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Much of the talk about the various "comprehensive immigration plans" that are being debated in Congress talk about what to do with the 12-20 million illegal aliens who are currently in the country. The supporters of the plan say that the currently illegal residents of America would be sent to the back of the line and would not become citizens unless they paid a fine and went through a background check, etc.

Once the plan is signed by the President will everyone who is in the USA illegally today become legal (but not citizens) instantly? I am not talking about being a citizen I am talking about their legal status the moment the comprehensive immigration bill is signed. Can they still be deported, will they still be illegal aliens until they are approved guest workers? Will they be able to work legally while they wait for their guest worker application to be filed and possibly approved? Will there be no such thing as an illegal alien anymore?

I hear that they (the 12-20 million illegal aliens) can apply for a special Visa but the devil is in the details. It would take years for everyone to register for the special Visa and have their background checked. It would be chaos. What about the people who sneak across the border after the bill is signed, will they also be legal, even though they are not registered guest workers?

I have researched this and can not find any details about this? The devil is in the details!
Illegals who came to U.S. after June 1, 2006 would be required to go back to their home countries for good, cannot stay in U.S. for any reason.
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And how do they prove someone came to the US after 6/1/2006?
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He may as well just open the borders and let everyone come on in and get them all hooked up onto the welfare system too while he is at it, good grief.
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