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Old 04-19-2009, 04:20 AM
 
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LOS ANGELES — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Wednesday that health care and other services for illegal immigrants cost California taxpayers as much as $6 billion a year, but that's not the reason for the state's financial mess.

While acknowledging the huge burden that comes with millions of illegal residents, the governor said the source of a $42 billion budget hole is a broken system in Sacramento. He urged voters to support six ballot proposals in next month's special election that he says will repair it.


Schwarzenegger: Immigrants not cause of budget woe


Poor Ahhnold, apparently dementia has set in.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:28 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Crime, welfare, medical care, prisons, jails, courts, and they are not the cause of the budget woe? Maybe not the entire cause but they are part of the problem.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:36 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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Six billion a year just doesn't sound as bad today when you start talking trillions in welfare. Seems like saving six B, would go a long ways to paying for a few other debts.

Strange state that California and getting weirder every year.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:39 AM
 
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11.2% unemployment... thing is, these unemployed folks willing to do the work of illegal immigrant workers??? That's always been a sticky issue, hasn't it? Really comes down to you're all in or you're all out. Pay into the system, then we'll talk. Don't pay into the system, go away.
I wish ahnold would be a little more specific about that 42 billion dysfunction in sacramento.
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Old 04-19-2009, 04:54 AM
 
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11.2% unemployment... thing is, these unemployed folks willing to do the work of illegal immigrant workers??? That's always been a sticky issue, hasn't it? Really comes down to you're all in or you're all out. Pay into the system, then we'll talk. Don't pay into the system, go away.
I wish ahnold would be a little more specific about that 42 billion dysfunction in sacramento.
I recently read that due to the exhorbitant amount of tax increases, Californians are fleeing the state in droves. It will be interesting to see how Ahhnold (along with the government of many other sanctuary cities and states) plan on paying the bills with a majority of non-tax paying illegal alien constituency.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:02 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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I recently read that due to the exorbitant amount of tax increases, Californians are fleeing the state in droves. It will be interesting to see how Ahhnold (along with the government of many other sanctuary cities and states) plan on paying the bills with a majority of non-tax paying illegal alien constituency.
He'll just leave the mess for the next guy and leave the state for his Colorado home.

Sad thing is all those people leaving the state will end up in a state near you and me and have a chance to start all over screwing up a new state. When we build the wall along the border, can we extend it up the east side of CA ?
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:22 AM
 
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He'll just leave the mess for the next guy and leave the state for his Colorado home.

Sad thing is all those people leaving the state will end up in a state near you and me and have a chance to start all over screwing up a new state. When we build the wall along the border, can we extend it up the east side of CA ?
Agreed. It is sad indeed. We need to seal the southern border and post armed guards around it and the northern border, enforce the current laws on the books, end the 14th and cut off all freebies in order to make it hard for those who won't self deport to survive. It's also way past time to withhold all foreign aid to the countries whose nationals remain in the US illegally.

An extended moratorium on ALL immigration would help get our house in order as well. Otherwise, I adamantly believe that we will only continue down the slippery slope into 3rd world abyss.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:37 AM
 
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[quote=JDubsMom;8411920]Agreed. It is sad indeed. We need to seal the southern border and post armed guards around it and the northern border, enforce the current laws on the books, end the 14th and cut off all freebies in order to make it hard for those who won't self deport to survive. It's also way past time to withhold all foreign aid to the countries whose nationals remain in the US illegally.

An extended moratorium on ALL immigration would help get our house in order as well. Otherwise, I adamantly believe that we will only continue down the slippery slope into 3rd world abyss.[/quote]

THAT last statement is so correct, the only way to stop illegal immigration is not to consume or support the theory of it..

why build walls and put an army? who are we stopping are we trying to stop the illegals or are we trying to stop the demand that employers
created when they keep employing them and illegals created a family network? and most illegals come with a visa that expires later on or they just stay in the country and again? why put a big army and a big wall
if the only demand were trying to destroy is caused by our demanding employers.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:39 AM
 
Location: DFW - Coppell / Las Colinas
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If the federal govt is going to raise taxes, I'd rather TX raise ours instead to have the funds to stop illegals. It may come down to states having to enforce their own birders if the federal govt doesn't do the job.

Maybe we need a state militia to enforce or laws.
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Old 04-19-2009, 05:41 AM
 
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If the federal govt is going to raise taxes, I'd rather TX raise ours instead to have the funds to stop illegals. It may come down to states having to enforce their own birders if the federal govt doesn't do the job.

Maybe we need a state militia to enforce or laws.
Many states began passing their own laws a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, far too many in Congress (mainly democrats) don't give a damn about the end result of what amounts to their greed for future voters to keep them in power. Fortunately, there are many blue dog Democrats that are against another "final" amnesty who will help greatly in defeating the upcoming proposed amnesty. Americans need to wake up and realize that the time for a 3rd party is long overdue.

As for guarding our borders, I agree we need to bring our troops home from Germany, Japan and other places that they have been trapped in unnecessarily to guard our own borders.

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