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Old 11-19-2010, 08:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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With the new direction of the nation and the States turning Conservative, we may see something done in those States that have Sanctuary Cities.
Texas sure is talking about it.
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Old 11-22-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Eldorado at Santa Fe, NM
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I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico which is a sanctuary city. Santa Fe also has a ridiculously high minimum wage... $10+ per hour. New Mexico also gives driver licenses to illegal immigrants. So what has the result been? This place has seen a huge jump in illegals (which is a burden to our one hospital and schools) and it's hard for the average high school kid or part-time worker to find a job.

I used to be indifferent on illegal immigration, but after living here for six years I have seen first hand the huge problems it creates. Maybe there are some good effects from it too, but I can't think of any.
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Old 11-22-2010, 09:31 PM
 
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I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico which is a sanctuary city. Santa Fe also has a ridiculously high minimum wage... $10+ per hour. New Mexico also gives driver licenses to illegal immigrants. So what has the result been? This place has seen a huge jump in illegals (which is a burden to our one hospital and schools) and it's hard for the average high school kid or part-time worker to find a job.

I used to be indifferent on illegal immigration, but after living here for six years I have seen first hand the huge problems it creates. Maybe there are some good effects from it too, but I can't think of any.
I can't think of any except it benefits those looking for dirt cheap labor. They are exempt from paying legal wages, and don't have to abide by wage and labor laws, no minimum wages, no vacations - they don't have to provide breaks or lunch time since they are outside the law to begin with. No workman's comp, and if they deduct taxes from paychecks, who would ever be the wiser if they simply pocket them.

It obviously hasn't benefitted Mexico which has become seriously unstable, especially the areas that people have left in large numbers.

And it doesn't benefit the children left behind by illegals who often must fend for themselves at young ages because the parents are 3000 miles away.

And then what becomes of many illegals when they're too old to work, cannot compete any longer for those cheap paying jobs? Many end up with no family, no country, no pension.
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Old 11-27-2010, 01:01 PM
 
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Oregon is a sanctuary state. Unemployment one of the highest in the nation, at about 11%. And they keep coming.... So one wonders just what really is the agenda of the progressives who live here? Also a medical marijuana state, connection?
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Old 11-27-2010, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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When I lived in San Francisco being a Sanctuary had little or nothing to with Mexicans. Chinese or Russians were the main groups of illegals. I recall a Chinese cargo ship landing at the Presidios Coast Guard Pier and disgorging a thousand illegal chinese. If they got off the Presidio they were home free.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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I think most blue states in the midwest have become "sanctuary states".
I refuse to contract with anyone who uses illegals.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I think most blue states in the midwest have become "sanctuary states".
I refuse to contract with anyone who uses illegals.

Absolutely, arresting the employers is the key. A raid on any meat processing or poultry plant will show you why.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:23 PM
 
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Absolutely, arresting the employers is the key. A raid on any meat processing or poultry plant will show you why.
You're absolutely correct. These "Employers" that can't hire LEGAL workers are wealthy enough for luxury homes and cars. By arresting and prosecuting these criminal employers you are cutting the head off the Snake.

When Illegal Immigration is combatted by dealing with the criminal employers and only then we will start to see the end of this problem.
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Old 11-28-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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You're absolutely correct. These "Employers" that can't hire LEGAL workers are wealthy enough for luxury homes and cars. By arresting and prosecuting these criminal employers you are cutting the head off the Snake.

When Illegal Immigration is combatted by dealing with the criminal employers and only then we will start to see the end of this problem.
The Judge who issued the injunction against SB 1070 left the parts about criminalizing employing illegals intact, despite this not one employer has been arrested. Apparently SB 1070 wasn't really about immigration reform
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Old 11-28-2010, 01:53 PM
 
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The Judge who issued the injunction against SB 1070 left the parts about criminalizing employing illegals intact, despite this not one employer has been arrested. Apparently SB 1070 wasn't really about immigration reform
SB1070 was never about immigration reform. It was about immigration enforcement. It is difficult to prove that an employer "knowlingly" hired illegal aliens because e-verify is not mandated in most workplaces and the illegals have such good fake documents. The illegals are just as guilty as the employers.
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