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Old 01-06-2016, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Please do give the details about how you have proof that Reagan only allowed for El Salvadorians to enter the USA legally because I call BS! Ronnie Raygun had previously been Governor of California.. California has very possibly always had the highest numbers of Illegal Mexicans in the USA .. So are you saying he purposely looked past the Mexican Illegal Immigration issue in California and the USA as a whole ? If so for what purposes.. Was he just that out of touch or was he in fact in Agreement with Corporate America that they needed to pay less in Taxes and less in wages to workers in order to increase profits and there by wages for the 1% .. Reagan was ONLY Opposed to Federal meddling/Involvement when it helped working class Americans.. The Walmart statement????? Really? You dont understand how the requirement for Hospitals to except any patient regardless of ability to pay helped Scum-mart/Antio America Everything they sell is Made in China?
ok, you really want to know: I might as well say it now: my husband was part of the Reagan administration. But please do not ask me what he did or who he is.

As for WalMart, this is simply your opinion and I have mine. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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Wal-Mart now e-verifies so it is only the US citizens that work for them that we subsidize because of the low wages and near to totally non-existent benefits. They tend to work most 30 hours or less often at minimum wage or 5 cents above here.

Now, I remember when Wal-Mart had US made goods but when the government sold us out with their "trade" programs, tariffs removed to even the playing field for our own businesses it forced them out of business. People here couldn't live on pennies a day like were being paid elsewhere. Businesses could make more money moving out of the country. Restoring the tariffs must be put back in place.

The rich and big business have always approved of the illegals here. As we know, that isn't humanitarian but selfishness and greed as they exploited the illegals. That is how we have ended up in the mess that we have now.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:41 PM
 
Location: P.C.F
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IMHO..... and JSYK.... Walmart sources out most if not all the back room employees and those who stock the shelves thru manpower / temp help services.. Yep.. They don't pay decent wages for VERY Physically demanding work Yes the majority of their workers have to work multiple part time jobs...
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Wal-Mart now e-verifies so it is only the US citizens that work for them that we subsidize because of the low wages and near to totally non-existent benefits. They tend to work most 30 hours or less often at minimum wage or 5 cents above here.

Now, I remember when Wal-Mart had US made goods but when the government sold us out with their "trade" programs, tariffs removed to even the playing field for our own businesses it forced them out of business. People here couldn't live on pennies a day like were being paid elsewhere. Businesses could make more money moving out of the country. Restoring the tariffs must be put back in place.

The rich and big business have always approved of the illegals here. As we know, that isn't humanitarian but selfishness and greed as they exploited the illegals. That is how we have ended up in the mess that we have now.
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Wal-Mart now e-verifies so it is only the US citizens that work for them that we subsidize because of the low wages and near to totally non-existent benefits. They tend to work most 30 hours or less often at minimum wage or 5 cents above here.

Now, I remember when Wal-Mart had US made goods but when the government sold us out with their "trade" programs, tariffs removed to even the playing field for our own businesses it forced them out of business. People here couldn't live on pennies a day like were being paid elsewhere. Businesses could make more money moving out of the country. Restoring the tariffs must be put back in place.

The rich and big business have always approved of the illegals here. As we know, that isn't humanitarian but selfishness and greed as they exploited the illegals. That is how we have ended up in the mess that we have now.

It's not just the rich and big businesses that hire illegals though. In fact, I would say that smaller companies and mom and pop businesses have more of a tendency to hire them. Why has our government allowed this? They are the biggest offenders in this mess. They are sworn to protect us from an illegal invasion, protect American interests and to enforce our laws but they don't. They could have stopped this long ago. Money, power and votes trump our laws with them. It didn't use to be this way.
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: P.C.F
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But depending on where you lived its been this way a long long time.. 30 years or more..
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It's not just the rich and big businesses that hire illegals though. In fact, I would say that smaller companies and mom and pop businesses have more of a tendency to hire them. Why has our government allowed this? They are the biggest offenders in this mess. They are sworn to protect us from an illegal invasion, protect American interests and to enforce our laws but they don't. They could have stopped this long ago. Money, power and votes trump our laws with them. It didn't use to be this way.
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Old 01-07-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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It picked up speed with the help of our government and the Mexican government:

http://www.politifact.com/texas/stat...-showing-migr/

Judicial Watch Uncovers USDA Records Sponsoring U.S. Food Stamp Program for Illegal Aliens - Judicial Watch

'Welcome' Guide for New Immigrants Includes Public Benefits

And that is just a few instances that came up quickly. Rolling out the red carpet!
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Old 01-07-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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But depending on where you lived its been this way a long long time.. 30 years or more..

What I meant is that we didn't use to roll out the red carpet for them as we are today. Never before has a president bypassed congress to give stays of deportation for millions of illegal aliens with work permits, granting them driver's licenses and many other perks that keep them here and encourage more to come.
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Old 01-09-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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IMHO..... and JSYK.... Walmart sources out most if not all the back room employees and those who stock the shelves thru manpower / temp help services.. Yep.. They don't pay decent wages for VERY Physically demanding work Yes the majority of their workers have to work multiple part time jobs...
the part time help is true, just like retail period but your crap about outsourcing or back room employees is totally untrue.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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How about we all agree they do not have the right to be here and should all be deported. They are welcome back if they follow the current process. If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. We can't afford them either.

More Than 90 Percent of Middle Eastern Refugees on Food Stamps - Breitbart

When we take care of our own we can bring in more. Until then, time to go home

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Old 11-11-2016, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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Angry "Illegal Aliens"

Kellem,

Immigration is a civil matter, just like getting a driver's license is a civil matter. However, violation of the statutes is a CRIMINAL matter.

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.


The first offense is treated as a misdemeanor and subsequent violations are prosecuted as felony violations. This is one of the prime issues with the current trend of declaring a "sanctuary city". There is NO provision allowing local governments to take this action, or in fact declare this. It is in fact criminal facilitation and should be prosecuted as such.


~ Marvin O'Bleness
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