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Old 06-22-2009, 11:52 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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14. paying the labor for immigration officials, training, vehicles and other equipment costs millions of dollars wasted by US taxpayers when the deported individuals will just turn around and hire another coyote to take them back across the border next week.

I personally don't want my tax money wasted on ineffective services. Also, I'm pretty sure continued immigration is not going to cause us to devolve into a third world slum. In fact, I'd bet money on it. Like I've stated in other posts, the part of town I live in actually improved tenfold as a result of the Hispanic community coming in, and effectively replaced the drugs, prostitution and decay into a thriving business and dining sector, and bringing investment and rehabilitation to a blighted neighborhood. You can go ahead and add that to your crappy list too.

15. If you make them all leave South Minneapolis will fall into decay.
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Old 06-23-2009, 05:39 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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How about this one?

14. paying the labor for immigration officials, training, vehicles and other equipment costs millions of dollars wasted by US taxpayers when the deported individuals will just turn around and hire another coyote to take them back across the border next week.

I personally don't want my tax money wasted on ineffective services. Also, I'm pretty sure continued immigration is not going to cause us to devolve into a third world slum. In fact, I'd bet money on it. Like I've stated in other posts, the part of town I live in actually improved tenfold as a result of the Hispanic community coming in, and effectively replaced the drugs, prostitution and decay into a thriving business and dining sector, and bringing investment and rehabilitation to a blighted neighborhood. You can go ahead and add that to your crappy list too.

15. If you make them all leave South Minneapolis will fall into decay.
You are again mixing Hispanics and Illegal Aliens. They are not the same.
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:01 AM
 
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And Mandarin, French, Hindi as well as Spanish speakers tend to be concentrated in a few areas whereas English is used/understood the world over. Again: the first three tongues are quite provincial.
Provincial??!!??!!! LET's take Spanish: Spain, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Columbia,Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, with a significant amount of speakers in the United States and Brazil (along the border with Argentina and Paraguay). Many people in Jamaica and throughout non-Hispanic Caribbean countries have basic conversational Spanish skills. That's part of Europe, virtually all of South America, and a significant portion of North America; hardly "concentrated in a few areas."
French: France and most west African countries, and Haiti.
Hindi: India, parts of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Guyana, and Trinadad.
Mandarian: 874 million native speakers in 16 countries. I don't think 874
million in 16 countries could be said to be "concentrated in a few areas"
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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You are again mixing Hispanics and Illegal Aliens. They are not the same.
Alright, well to be clear about it, the vast majority of the Hispanic population in South Minneapolis are first generation (very new community) and a significant % of them are undocumented. I don't want to speculate exact numbers, but it is a SIGNIFICANT number.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:21 AM
 
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14. paying the labor for immigration officials, training, vehicles and other equipment costs millions of dollars wasted by US taxpayers when the deported individuals will just turn around and hire another coyote to take them back across the border next week.

I personally don't want my tax money wasted on ineffective services. Also, I'm pretty sure continued immigration is not going to cause us to devolve into a third world slum. In fact, I'd bet money on it. Like I've stated in other posts, the part of town I live in actually improved tenfold as a result of the Hispanic community coming in, and effectively replaced the drugs, prostitution and decay into a thriving business and dining sector, and bringing investment and rehabilitation to a blighted neighborhood. You can go ahead and add that to your crappy list too.

15. If you make them all leave South Minneapolis will fall into decay.
The same has happened in New Jersey: Mexican immigrants completely revitalizing blighted neighborhoods.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Provincial??!!??!!! LET's take Spanish: Spain, Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Columbia,Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Chile, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Dominican Republic, with a significant amount of speakers in the United States and Brazil (along the border with Argentina and Paraguay). Many people in Jamaica and throughout non-Hispanic Caribbean countries have basic conversational Spanish skills. That's part of Europe, virtually all of South America, and a significant portion of North America; hardly "concentrated in a few areas."
French: France and most west African countries, and Haiti.
Hindi: India, parts of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Guyana, and Trinadad.
Mandarian: 874 million native speakers in 16 countries. I don't think 874
million in 16 countries could be said to be "concentrated in a few areas"
I stand by what I stated.

Too: note the non Farsi language signs in Iran this past week----------the language being used was English, not Spanish, Mandarin, etc.

It may hurt the pride of the Spanish, etc. speakers that their tongue is not very important..............oh well.
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Old 06-23-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Alright, well to be clear about it, the vast majority of the Hispanic population in South Minneapolis are first generation (very new community) and a significant % of them are undocumented. I don't want to speculate exact numbers, but it is a SIGNIFICANT number.
Which is a slap in the face towards those folks who immigrated here legally.

As I have stated in the past: illegal aliens need to be deported and and have their assets seized since they are criminals.
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Old 06-23-2009, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Which is a slap in the face towards those folks who immigrated here legally.

As I have stated in the past: illegal aliens need to be deported and and have their assets seized since they are criminals.
What are you suggesting, that everybody who breaks the law should have their assets seized? A little extreme, don't you think?
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What are you suggesting, that everybody who breaks the law should have their assets seized? A little extreme, don't you think?
US citizen Felons tend to have their assets seized upon conviction-------why should illegal aliens receive leniency?
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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US citizen Felons tend to have their assets seized upon conviction-------why should illegal aliens receive leniency?
Are you sure of this? Please provide source.
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