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I would like to see where you found they pay billions in to taxes. That is a false statement. Unless you mean sales taxes. If that was the case, why doesn't every tourist that comes to America get freebies while they are here? I mean they pay sales tax as well.
I don't think that they plan to be parents at a young age. We should have better sex education in schools, better access to contraceptives, and more on site baby sitting in schools.
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They are here Illegally which means in the preponderance of cases they were already a family. My point being this should be happening in the home Countries schools not ours. The mothers racing across the desert to have a kid here were in Mexican schools not ours.
Accumulated wealth meaning the gains that were made in the 1800s lead to more wealth later on.
Here's an example. My great great grandfather steals $100 from your great great grandfather (half your GGGF's wealth) . My GGGF takes that the money to buy a piece of wood and an ax. Your's is now in need of money to survive. Mine creates furniture and sells it your GGGF. He and many other people buy the furniture. My GGGF makes more than $100, he makes $150. Okay his son takes the extra $50 to expand his enterprise into farming. Meanwhile, your family is doing a little better. My GGF asks your GGF to work on a farm. Sounds okay. You're being underpaid. He makes $300 off of your labor...you make $3. This snowballs with each generation. Your family never fully recoups the $100 because it grows and your family is now dependent on working for my family to survive.
This is pretty much the US and Mexico. Both had fairly equal wealth levels, then we took roughly half their land and wealth...in which in order to survive worked for us in our factories and farms.
So in 1950 we didn't "steal" from them, only had cheap labor based on the original accumulation of wealth.
So we stole wealth from Guatemala and the other Countries throwing their peasants at us too? I'm still trying to get my arms around this.
I would like to see where you found they pay billions in to taxes. That is a false statement. Unless you mean sales taxes. If that was the case, why doesn't every tourist that comes to America get freebies while they are here? I mean they pay sales tax as well.
Americans believe that undocumented immigrants are exploiting the United States' economy. The widespread belief is that illegal aliens cost more in government services than they contribute to the economy. This belief is undeniably false. [E]very empirical study of illegals' economic impact demonstrates the opposite . . .: undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services. Moreover, undocumented immigrants contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs. Eighty-five percent of eminent economists surveyed have concluded that undocumented immigrants have had a positive (seventy-four percent) or neutral (eleven percent) impact on the U.S. economy.
Americans believe that undocumented immigrants are exploiting the United States' economy. The widespread belief is that illegal aliens cost more in government services than they contribute to the economy. This belief is undeniably false. [E]very empirical study of illegals' economic impact demonstrates the opposite . . .: undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services. Moreover, undocumented immigrants contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs. Eighty-five percent of eminent economists surveyed have concluded that undocumented immigrants have had a positive (seventy-four percent) or neutral (eleven percent) impact on the U.S. economy.
Looking at our growing unemployment rate---------I do not believe that article.
Remember that many, if not most illegal aliens live under conditions that would not pass zoning ordinances here in the USA (2+ families in small apartments, etc). Such laws were passed many years ago to curtail abuses against legal immigrants ca. 100 years ago.
Mexico was under French control in 1867 so what happened prior was moot.
Too; Guatemala broke free from Mexico yet the latter nation does not seem that angry about it.
Moreover; Mexico 'stole' land from Spain in 1821 yet where is the outrage?
For that matter; there sure seems to be little rage against the Spanish Hispanics for subjugating the Aztecs, etc.
Final point: the racism here in the in the USA against Indians/Mestizos essentially saved the rest of Mexico from being taken by the USA in 1848.
Mexico was never under direct French control. Under the Hapsburg, but still Spanish. Any actual intervention was for about 5 years ENDING in 1867. So the French is really a blip in the history of Mexico. Hence why Cinco de Mayo is fast becoming an American holiday.
Guatemala is not 55% of the land of Mexico.
Mexico was a Viceroyalty, so it was very soveirgn. The governor essentially grew more powerful and independent from Spain. Just like in the same line of the US. Both Spain and Mexico were fine afterwards.
The issue between "Natives and Immigrants" is not debated since it's not the same topic. That would be the Mexico forum.
Final point: You're stating the mass genocide of an entire population prevented the US from doing what is already did? So if it were not for a completely off topic event that has nothing to do with Mexico it would be saved from something that the US already was in striking distance of doing since it was in Mexico City and forced a treaty otherwise saying it will continue doing what it's doing? I don't follow.
The US treatment of Indians has nothing to do with it's treatment of Mexico during the Mexican-American War.
2) Set up a hotline people can call to report criminal aliens or those hiring them. If information leads to convictions of employers or to deporations of criminal aliens, a reward can be provided. The money can be raised from the fines.
There are several such hotlines, actually. 1-866-DHS-2-ICE is maintained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 1-800-BE-ALERT is a joint venture between ICE and US Customs. The primary ICE web site also has phone numbers posted for Dentention and Removal Field Offices and Office of Investigations.
"Illegal Crime Wave Thread" "One Woman's Story of Multiculturalism" "Shut the border due to Swine Flu"
I'd say its debatable.
The majority have their wives and children here in the US. A large percent are mixed families (one generation of legal and one generation of illegals).
You're right, most Mexicans did work in Mexico. However, many left to the environmental catastrophe on the border, the lack of proper education, the poor working conditions in border factories (most of them are American owned). They wanted to escape third world exploitation. Some came legally...some did not. With that said, maybe we should address the reasons why they came here
No, their home country needs to address this issue.
There are several such hotlines, actually. 1-866-DHS-2-ICE is maintained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 1-800-BE-ALERT is a joint venture between ICE and US Customs. The primary ICE web site also has phone numbers posted for Dentention and Removal Field Offices and Office of Investigations.
No kidding? I didn't know that.
Thanks for the info.
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