RE:Move This Forum (medical, illegal immigration, immigrate, controversial)

[newportbeachsmostwanted]

In response to Yac: (now closed)

"This forum is a place for people to discuss geographical topics (in general) that help them with relocating or help them learn more about different places in the US. Even though so much place is devoted to other topics, this does not change the focus of City-Data.com"



Your post does not make sense. Especially, the sentence "Even though so much place is devoted to other topics this does not change the focus."


Illegal immigration has equally as much or more to do with geographical issues than Garden, Religion, Books or any of the other non-related forums. Why do those forums get City-Data's sole-interest and attention?


Illegal immigration discussion does spur conflicting views. Don't get me wrong! And I can see why City-Data mod's have decided to characterize it as so. However, why are controversies placed in a subforum of "General US?" These forums were amougnst the first developed(based on their popularity), and I think they ought to be moved to the general forum.

[BerryPie]

Originally Posted by newportbeachsmostwanted

In response to Yac: (now closed)

"This forum is a place for people to discuss geographical topics (in general) that help them with relocating or help them learn more about different places in the US. Even though so much place is devoted to other topics, this does not change the focus of City-Data.com"



Your post does not make sense. Especially, the sentence "Even though so much place is devoted to other topics this does not change the focus."


Illegal immigration has equally as much or more to do with geographical issues than Garden, Religion, Books or any of the other non-related forums. Why do those forums get City-Data's sole-interest and attention?


Illegal immigration discussion does spur conflicting views. Don't get me wrong! And I can see why City-Data mod's have decided to characterize it as so. However, why are controversies placed in a subforum of "General US?" These forums were amougnst the first developed(based on their popularity), and I think they ought to be moved to the general forum.

I can't tell the Citi-Data folks how to run their forum, but I will say the illegal alien issue in the US is no different than getting the word out to the public that there is a deadly plague engulfing this whole country, and that the citizens had better wake up and help do something to stop it, before it is too late.

On a scale of 1 to 10 of all the possible dangers to our country, I would rate the invasion from the southern border at a 10.

And by the way, I have never seen a "starving" Mexican coming across the border, unless they became hungry on the route across the border. It is about financial gain to them, they simply want what WE have achieved. But to us, it is about the very destruction of our country, and them draining us financially, medically, socially, of everything we have worked for.

So I do not consider us a cold hearted uncaring people, just because we want them to stay home and get their own house in order, or immigrate legally, instead of breaking in here in darkness, and burning ours down. And some people need to understand that.

[YapCity]

Originally Posted by newportbeachsmostwanted

In response to Yac: (now closed)

"This forum is a place for people to discuss geographical topics (in general) that help them with relocating or help them learn more about different places in the US. Even though so much place is devoted to other topics, this does not change the focus of City-Data.com"



Your post does not make sense. Especially, the sentence "Even though so much place is devoted to other topics this does not change the focus."


Illegal immigration has equally as much or more to do with geographical issues than Garden, Religion, Books or any of the other non-related forums. Why do those forums get City-Data's sole-interest and attention?


Illegal immigration discussion does spur conflicting views. Don't get me wrong! And I can see why City-Data mod's have decided to characterize it as so. However, why are controversies placed in a subforum of "General US?" These forums were amougnst the first developed(based on their popularity), and I think they ought to be moved to the general forum.

Because the theme of the board is "City-Data", which means information about states, cities, mostly in the interest of relocation.

It's not a political discussion forum. Illegal Immigration, is a political topic.

So I commend them for not just stifling political discussion completely, and you have to realize they've provided a venue for something which is really not part of their original mission.

Many boards do this, and the topics are usually under a section that basically means "Things you want to talk about, but don't pertain to this board". I personally would have put the other new topics under the "General US" header to keep with the structure, but I can certainly understand why politics and II are where they are. II is a subtopic of Politics.

Does that about sum it up correctly Mr. Administrator? (if you're watching)

~T

[Manhattan-ite]

YapCity is right, once again.

Indeed, those who love talking about immigration should be grateful enough to our moderators for having this very forum to vent. It is a luxury they created just for you.

City-Data was created to help people with information on cities and locales. We give advice and discuss urban and suburban, hear stories of relocation and community.

City-Data has now grown so big that it kind of has lost its original meaning- people prefer to chat about "other topics" or "politics" or "immigration" than giving advice or discussing their towns. The original mission of the forum seems almost forgotten in these corners.

Many topics have been provided by the moderators and it's good: health, food, finance, movies, whatever. They entertain people and are just that, amicable chitchat with no pretensions.

But the immigration forum falls in no category, in my opinion: it's no amicable chitchat because it gets extreme, sort of fanatic and sometimes beyond; it's not useful because it gives no substantial help or advice (we all know that illegals are bad- do we need to repeat it a million times and provide photographic evidence?).

I would say "move this forum", yes... out of City-Data. But this is not going to happen. So fans of the (anti-) immigration talk should be happy and grateful to have this room, isolated or not, and I should be happy to know the immigration talk is a sub-forum of a forum and not something bigger.

I think.

[Yac]

With immigration, especially the illegal one, being so relevant to many of you posters, I believe it is a good thing a sub forum for it exists.
I also believe that since discussions that take place here are so heated up, it belongs in Politics and Other Controversies, as it is one of the most controversial topics here.
With both P&OC and Immigration getting so much traffic these days, maybe it would be best to move them to the main page, at least P&OC. I will discuss this with the Administrator. You can also request it in About the Forum topic, it's designed to answer questions like this.
For now, this topic is irrelevant to imigration and will be closed.
Yac.