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Old 05-18-2009, 06:39 AM
 
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No one is justifying bigotry and hate; and the citizens in this particular community are simply responding to the criminal element within the illegal alien population. You canít expect citizens of this country to embrace illegal aliens who commit violent crimes, anymore than they would welcome criminals who are U.S. citizens. Their rage is justified.

What is mind-boggling and indefensible, is the fact that many Hispanics justify ALL behavior of illegal aliens -- even the most heinous crimes are not condemned. How on earth can any Ďmoralí being justify murder, rape, or other acts of violence simply due to shared ethnicity, or a fear of being ostracized by others of their ethnic group?
This is a big lie and you know it. I would love for you to provide quotes from any hispanic be it on this board or elsewhere justifying murders, rapes and other acts of violence committed by criminal illegal immigrants.
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Old 05-18-2009, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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This is a big lie and you know it. I would love for you to provide quotes from any hispanic be it on this board or elsewhere justifying murders, rapes and other acts of violence committed by criminal illegal immigrants.
When you refuse to condemn illegal aliens for ANY behavior; you are in fact endorsing ALL behavior. When have you EVER admonished illegal aliens? If you have, I certainly missed it.

Furthermore, whenever a thread is posted involving violent crimes committed by illegal aliens, you and your ilk consistently respond with excuses. Your favorite being, “U.S. citizens also commit crimes.” How is that NOT justifying their crimes?

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Old 05-18-2009, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Little Pond Farm
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[quote=elmuychingon;8852485]Do White people have to publicly condemn every white criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Black people have to publicly condemn every black criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Asians have to publicly condemn every Asian criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?

Those "anti-illegal" types literally search everything on the web, not just illegal, but Mexican and leave a string of comments. Regardless of what the story is.
National news, local news from towns they are nowhere near, music videos, whatever. They're like trolls.
Some people spend their whole week literally googling for dirt on illegals.

Blacks had the Million man march and the jist of that march was one million black men taking responsibility for their own community. That act certainly effected my opinion.
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Old 05-18-2009, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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What century do you live in with all this "negro" talk? I still stand by what i said.
I used the word 'Negro' since not all Blacks are indeed of sub Saharan African ancestry--------------the Australian Aborigines are also considered to be 'Black' along with Negritos and a few others.

And the United Negro College Fund still contains the word in question so it clearly is not a slur.

Besides: the coach of the Chicago Bulls; his name is Vinny Del Negro-----------and, he is a White man.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:14 AM
 
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Bigotry and hate can NEVER be justified.
Unless you live in "Pleasantville", that is a naive and completely false statement.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:35 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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how about they just raise their voice against killers. murderers, rapists, drunk drivers, and bigots.

in the same way we condemn the killer, we should also condemn those ignorant individuals who would lump all spanish speaking, brown people together.

the violence should NOT increase. any violence should be denounced.


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The Spanish-speaking community already was uneasy when police reported Schneller, 18, had a Mexican fiance, and things got worse when Raul Ponce-Rocha was named as a suspect, said Lydia Albright, a Puerto Rican Kronenwetter resident.
Schneller, a D.C. Everest Senior High School senior living in Wausau, was found slain in her apartment May 2. Ponce-Rocha, 22, of Wausau, an undocumented immigrant, was charged Wednesday with her homicide.
Since Ponce-Rocha's arrest, public online forums have been clogged with comments against illegals living in the area.

Damari Cruz of Wausau said it is not fair that people find it so easy to judge others by the language they speak, she said.


Latinos on edge after illegal immigrant's arrest in murder case | wausaudailyherald.com | Wausau Daily Herald


While I totally agree with Mr. Cruz, this story is indicative of why Americans of hispanic descent should loudly voice their opposition to illegal immigration. Unless and until they demand that the la raza crowd stops lumping them all together, the hostility (and eventual violence) against them will become increasingly worse.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:36 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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are you saying bigotry and hatred are justified?

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Unless you live in "Pleasantville", that is a naive and completely false statement.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:45 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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so if it is not about race/ethnicity...

then why is it so important that "hispanics" come out against these other "hispanics"? shouldnt it just be about US citizens denouncing illegals? regardless of ethnicity or language?

you guys think you aint turning it into a race/ethnicity issue, but you do.

otherwise you would never need to make the distinction between these groups. instead you would see these "hispanics" as citizens, residents, whatever. they would just be like any other person in the US.

you guys fall into the same trap as those that would treat the puerto ricans in wausau as illegals.

you have categorized them. those latinos MUST denounce those other people that look like them. otherwise they are being complacent.

well there are plenty of complascent folk out in this country. and they all come in different colors, shapes and sizes... why focus on latinos?

since this isnt about race or ethnicity after all...



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I agree with all of you. The fact that elmuychingon insists on turning this into a matter of race as opposed to illegal immigration, serves as confirmation of their denial and inability to accept the reality, cause and effect of the current American anger and backlash.
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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I agree with all of you. The fact that elmuychingon insists on turning this into a matter of race as opposed to illegal immigration, serves as confirmation of their denial and inability to accept the reality, cause and effect of the current American anger and backlash.
Jeez just look at all his/her posts talk about Troll like la raza bot!
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Old 05-19-2009, 05:07 PM
 
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I donít think it will happen either. To the detriment of many Hispanics, ethic pride trumps everything. They donít realize (or donít care) how volatile this issue is.

This most definitely is a national security issue, because we have no idea who is in our country, or what their intentions are.

Sure we know who's here legal or illegal take look
California's Most Wanted Fugitives - California Deptartment of Justice - Office of the Attorney General
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