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Old 05-17-2009, 11:59 AM
 
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The Spanish-speaking community already was uneasy when police reported Schneller, 18, had a Mexican fiance, and things got worse when Raul Ponce-Rocha was named as a suspect, said Lydia Albright, a Puerto Rican Kronenwetter resident.
Schneller, a D.C. Everest Senior High School senior living in Wausau, was found slain in her apartment May 2. Ponce-Rocha, 22, of Wausau, an undocumented immigrant, was charged Wednesday with her homicide.
Since Ponce-Rocha's arrest, public online forums have been clogged with comments against illegals living in the area.

Damari Cruz of Wausau said it is not fair that people find it so easy to judge others by the language they speak, she said.


Latinos on edge after illegal immigrant's arrest in murder case | wausaudailyherald.com | Wausau Daily Herald


While I totally agree with Mr. Cruz, this story is indicative of why Americans of hispanic descent should loudly voice their opposition to illegal immigration. Unless and until they demand that the la raza crowd stops lumping them all together, the hostility (and eventual violence) against them will become increasingly worse.
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Old 05-17-2009, 12:54 PM
 
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Unless and until they demand that the la raza crowd stops lumping them all together
I doubt that will ever happen. Too many Hispanic Americans have been brainwashed into thinking this is a struggle against their "people" or their "culture" by the racist la raza crowd. I try to point out that they are also Americans so they don't have their own "culture." It is just a Mexican or Spanish influenced form of American culture. La Raza continues to try to make this a race issue because that is the only way they will be able to get support. Those of us who are anti-illegal need to make it clear that this is a security issue not a race issue.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I doubt that will ever happen. Too many Hispanic Americans have been brainwashed into thinking this is a struggle against their "people" or their "culture" by the racist la raza crowd. I try to point out that they are also Americans so they don't have their own "culture." It is just a Mexican or Spanish influenced form of American culture. La Raza continues to try to make this a race issue because that is the only way they will be able to get support. Those of us who are anti-illegal need to make it clear that this is a security issue not a race issue.
I don’t think it will happen either. To the detriment of many Hispanics, ethic pride trumps everything. They don’t realize (or don’t care) how volatile this issue is.

This most definitely is a national security issue, because we have no idea who is in our country, or what their intentions are.
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Old 05-17-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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Do White people have to publicly condemn every white criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Black people have to publicly condemn every black criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Asians have to publicly condemn every Asian criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?

Those "anti-illegal" types literally search everything on the web, not just illegal, but Mexican and leave a string of comments. Regardless of what the story is.
National news, local news from towns they are nowhere near, music videos, whatever. They're like trolls.
Some people spend their whole week literally googling for dirt on illegals.
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Do White people have to publicly condemn every white criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Black people have to publicly condemn every black criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Asians have to publicly condemn every Asian criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?

Those "anti-illegal" types literally search everything on the web, not just illegal, but Mexican and leave a string of comments. Regardless of what the story is.
National news, local news from towns they are nowhere near, music videos, whatever. They're like trolls.
Some people spend their whole week literally googling for dirt on illegals.
Apples and oranges. We’re not discussing U.S. citizens defending the behavior of other U.S. citizens; Black, White, Asian or Hispanic. We are discussing Hispanic-Americans defending Hispanic foreign invaders.
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Apples and oranges. We’re not discussing U.S. citizens defending the behavior of other U.S. citizens; Black, White, Asian or Hispanic. We are discussing Hispanic-Americans defending Hispanic foreign invaders.

Ding.

Ones are citizens the others are not. Pretty cut and dried.
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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Apples and oranges. We’re not discussing U.S. citizens defending the behavior of other U.S. citizens; Black, White, Asian or Hispanic. We are discussing Hispanic-Americans defending Hispanic foreign invaders.
I agree with all of you. The fact that elmuychingon insists on turning this into a matter of race as opposed to illegal immigration, serves as confirmation of their denial and inability to accept the reality, cause and effect of the current American anger and backlash.

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Old 05-17-2009, 02:24 PM
 
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Do White people have to publicly condemn every white criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Black people have to publicly condemn every black criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?
Do Asians have to publicly condemn every Asian criminal in the news to avoid discrimination?

Those "anti-illegal" types literally search everything on the web, not just illegal, but Mexican and leave a string of comments. Regardless of what the story is.
National news, local news from towns they are nowhere near, music videos, whatever. They're like trolls.
Some people spend their whole week literally googling for dirt on illegals.
It's just another flimsy reason for them to hate all hispanics.
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:52 PM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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Apples and oranges. We’re not discussing U.S. citizens defending the behavior of other U.S. citizens; Black, White, Asian or Hispanic. We are discussing Hispanic-Americans defending Hispanic foreign invaders.

Awesome Post!!!
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:59 PM
 
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Apples and oranges. We’re not discussing U.S. citizens defending the behavior of other U.S. citizens; Black, White, Asian or Hispanic. We are discussing Hispanic-Americans defending Hispanic foreign invaders.
Yes, and no one claims we don't already have enough home-grown criminals. We do and there is no good reason at all to import more violent criminals or allow other countries to dump their unwanted riff-raff here.
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