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Old 05-22-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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That’s right! If they have already been deported and return to this country, we should not waste the court’s time or taxpayer’s money on another hearing. Immediate deportation should be the rule.

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Agents have arrested people at Immigration Court in downtown L.A. and expelled them. Authorities say they're reinstating previous orders. Lawyers say the legal process is being flouted.

Fernando Arteaga appeared last week in Immigration Court as part of a lengthy battle to stay in the United States. But just before the hearing began, immigration officers removed him from the courtroom, arrested him and took him into custody.

Several hours later, agents deported him to Mexico -- even though his court case was still underway.


Arteaga, 44, is among a small number of immigrants picked up in recent weeks by immigration agents at the downtown Los Angeles courthouse. All of the people arrested there had been previously deported and all had criminal records, said Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Virginia Kice.

Immigration agents are reinstating previous orders of deportation, Kice said, which "enables the nation's immigration judges to focus on the cases of those aliens who have not had their day in court."

"People arrested for being in the United States illegally have access to due process," she said. "However, those who exercise their rights, then willfully ignore the immigration judge's decision or willfully reenter the United States after being previously removed . . . must understand there are consequences for those actions."
Deportations carried out in the middle of immigration cases - Los Angeles Times
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Old 05-22-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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round up all his relatives too and make it happy big family back in mexico .
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:24 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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even the wife who is a citizen? and kids who are citizens?

ya, im sure that would happen.

such emotional reactionism

tsk tsk


as for those with out a legit case, well what do they expect? deported once, they deport you again.
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round up all his relatives too and make it happy big family back in mexico .

Last edited by the one; 05-22-2009 at 03:18 PM..
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:20 PM
 
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even the wife who is a citizen? and kids who are citizens?

ya, im sure that would happen.

such emotional reactionism

tsk tsk


as for those with out a legit case, well what do they expect? deported once, they deport you again.
Well we don't want to be inhumane and break up the family. So lets just deport mom, dad, and the anchors back to the old country.
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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They are right - why continue to clog the court system with people who have already been deported and have a criminal history on top of that.
Finally some common sense in regards to immigration.
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Old 05-22-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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even the wife who is a citizen? and kids who are citizens?

ya, im sure that would happen.

such emotional reactionism

tsk tsk


as for those with out a legit case, well what do they expect? deported once, they deport you again.
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Well we don't want to be inhumane and break up the family. So lets just deport mom, dad, and the anchors back to the old country.
The spouse (if here legally) cannot be deported; neither can their children, although, to keep the family together---------they may need to follow said illegal alien back to his/her homeland.

Oh well.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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Well we don't want to be inhumane and break up the family. So lets just deport mom, dad, and the anchors back to the old country.
That sounds like a very viable solution for everyone involved.
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:07 PM
 
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Well we don't want to be inhumane and break up the family. So lets just deport mom, dad, and the anchors back to the old country.
DITTO
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Old 05-22-2009, 11:15 PM
 
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even the wife who is a citizen? and kids who are citizens?

ya, im sure that would happen.

such emotional reactionism

tsk tsk


as for those with out a legit case, well what do they expect? deported once, they deport you again.
The children are just as much citizens of Mexico as they might be here, and culturally they are Mexicans.

What kind of parents would want to leave their children behind when they return to their homeland? You don't see many Americans giving birth in Mexico and then insisting that they can never bring those kids to the USA. Yet you see Mexicans all the time coming here, giving birth and then proclaiming their children cannot go to Mexico ever.

That's simply false. Nothing at all stops the parents from taking their children home with them when they go.
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Land of Sunshine & Sh*t
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The arrests have angered immigration attorneys, who argue that once an immigrant is in court, the judge should make the final decision -- not the immigration agency.
Apparently a judge DID already make the decision to deport him in 1988 (for an ASSAULT conviction) but because it wasn't in his favor he didn't feel the need to honor it. The famous "pick and choose which laws to obey" scam again.

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Arteaga's attorney, Mario Acosta Jr., said that moments after his client was arrested May 11, he went into the courtroom and explained what had happened. The judge issued a stay of deportation, Acosta said, but the immigration agency ignored the order and deported Arteaga anyway.
They have the audacity to be all up in arms because ICE ignored a stay of deportation order but we're supposed to just sit back and accept illegals aliens who blatantly ignore deportation orders (and other laws) all the time?

Bullcrap! It's like the old saying, "Give them an inch and they'll take a mile". Illegal aliens have been getting away with ignoring laws for years and they got greedy. Now it's coming back to bite them in the butt. Good.
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