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Old 05-25-2009, 06:58 PM
 
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This thread has nothing to do with the legal immigration sub-forum. Why didn`t you post it on the "Great Debates" sub-forum??

This thread is rude towards 2nd and 3rd generation U.S. Nationals.
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This thread has nothing to do with the legal immigration sub-forum. Why didn`t you post it on the "Great Debates" sub-forum??

This thread is rude towards 2nd and 3rd generation U.S. Nationals.

?????? I did not mean any malice toward legal immigrants. I myself am a 3rd gen immigrant from Italy(dad's side), my moms family has been here since the beginning I believe.

Again I am sorry for offending anyone.
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Old 05-25-2009, 07:26 PM
 
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By returning to the racist standards of the immigration act of 1924? Do you really want to bar immigration from China, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan in favor of unlimited immigration from Latin America?
Replacing a racist bad 1924 law with an even more racist and worse 1965 law isn't the way to go about it.

Family chain migration is extremely unfair and racist. It allows people to bring in elderly, infirm, mentally ill, lazy and whatever else just because of some family tie and meanwhile excellent types of would be immigrants cannot come.

We need to end family chain migration. Base quotas on unemployment and welfare rates. We don't need immigrants when there are Americans who could receive scholarships and be offered an education or job training who need to work.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Texas
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awesome...
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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This thread has nothing to do with the legal immigration sub-forum. Why didn`t you post it on the "Great Debates" sub-forum??

This thread is rude towards 2nd and 3rd generation U.S. Nationals.
ROFLMAO-------------that coming from a first generation US born individual (myself) whose dad was a legal immigrant here.
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Old 05-25-2009, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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By returning to the racist standards of the immigration act of 1924? Do you really want to bar immigration from China, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan in favor of unlimited immigration from Latin America?

Wow.

No. I think this is a horrible idea.


The OP was referring to the pre 1965 immigration laws-------------remember that the Draconian rules applying to Asians and a few others were removed ca. 1953.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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Ok ok so im NOT the only one. Thank goodness.
You definitely are not the only one. Nearly all my friends believe this, but express it in different words. This is yet another topic that is not politically correct to discuss.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Manassas, Virginia
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This 1965 bill should have never been passed in the first place. I'm of the opinion that there is a concerted effort by certain people/organizations to dismantle the greatness of the United States. It all seems to be coming together now and in the next few years.

Exactly.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Manassas, Virginia
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By returning to the racist standards of the immigration act of 1924? Do you really want to bar immigration from China, Taiwan, Korea, and Japan in favor of unlimited immigration from Latin America?

Wow.

No. I think this is a horrible idea.



Please explain how. Do you want to amend the laws so that children born in the United States are no longer automatically citizens? Or do you propose to legislate common sense and judicial review out of the deportation process?

Neither of these options sound like good ideas to me. Perhaps you have a different plan that is more workable?



So at what generation would immigrant's descendants be able to participate in social welfare programs? 2nd? 3rd? 20th? Would you suggest that a naturalized US citizen not be able to participate in social security, medicare, etc?

This seems like a singularily insane idea, as immigrants make up a significant portion of the youthful working population who's taxes contribute to and support these programs. Cutting out this base of support makes no sense at all.

Again, another bad idea which I disagree with.




Since public schooling is how we train the workers, leaders, and thinkers of the future, I see an increase in public school enrollment as a positive indicator of our ability to expand economically and support our Capitalist system.

Would you argue that educated workforce is not worth the cost of education? You might find some agreement in the Taliban-held areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan or amongst the (former) Tamil Tigers, but not here with me, I'm afraid.



I strongly disagree. I live and work closely with both native-born and immigrant citizens and permanent residents. I find that my life both at work and in the neighborhoods where I resided was greatly enriched by the liberal nature of our immigration policies.




I agree that the immigration system should be amended to reduce the amount of family-based immigration and favor immigration by skilled workers. A good place to start would be to stop sending US-educated foreigners home to compete with our own industries and workers from overseas. Any immigrant who can find work and wishes to remain in the United States after completing a 4-year degree at an accredited technical university should be awarded an automatic Permanent Residency (Green Card)

The US is being conquered by the third world. Have you noticed? Your policies enables it.
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Manassas, Virginia
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This thread has nothing to do with the legal immigration sub-forum. Why didn`t you post it on the "Great Debates" sub-forum??

This thread is rude towards 2nd and 3rd generation U.S. Nationals.

What is rude is showing up to someone's house without notifying the owners.
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