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Old 05-24-2009, 04:43 PM
 
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I think that a lot of them do speak and read basic anglais, but they prefer to use their native tongue when among family and friends. It really doesn't bother me to be around it; I feel it gives me a chance to brush up on my language skills.

Do you think that all brown people are here illegally, or just the ones who don't act white enough?


Is that supposed to be a legitimate question or are you simply a racist?

 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Northern VA (for now)
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I visited Disneyland on May 16th for the first time in 22 years (since I was a child). I have never been so irritated in my life as the day I went there. First off, the tickets cost $94. And when I got into the park, NOBODY spoke english. You would have thought this was Disneyland Mexico! It was utterly unbelievable. The people at the park were sooooo rude (mainly the ones that spoke only spanish)...trying to wedge their 20 kids in front of me and my niece, cutting, one married family man hit my wifes butt, and said "lo siento" and laughed. We got so many dirty and awkward looks from some people as if we were a strange breed in some foreign country.

I just couldn't believe how some of these families, who had 5+ kids, could afford to drop $500 on a trip to Disneyland. This park was, no joke, almost ALL spanish speakers (not just hispanics or other legal citizens whom I dont have a problem with, but people who literally spoke no english). I asked one of the older men (he worked as an information man) about it, and he said that Disney forces him to take classes at the local community college in order to learn spanish to cater to the almost 100% spanish speaking population at Disneyland, and that new employee's are almost required to speak spanish to be in serious contention for a job.

I was wondering if all parks in the Southwest and Texas are like this. I just didn't think these people, who speak no english and work extrememly low paying jobs, could afford to take a day at Disneyland.

Is there anyone else out there who has visited the Disney park recently and knows what I am talking about? It was the most miserable experience and I hope I don't ever return.
Sadly i cant say i'm surprised with your experience.

Back in my native Hampton Roads, they started to hire foreign workers on visas rather than hiring local HS kids for summer work at Busch Gardens. That backfired when an Indian visa worker committed a sexual crime while on the job at the park.

On that man grabbing your wife's butt, i'm glad you held your cool b/c if that happened to my significant other or mother i'd be in jail right now over what i would have done to that guy. Let's see him laugh w/o any teeth.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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Is that supposed to be a legitimate question or are you simply a racist?
It's a legitimate question. When you see a brown person, do you automatically think they are an illegal alien? Is there a way to tell the difference between those who are in this country legally and those who aren't?

I don't live in an area that has the problems that Cali does.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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I had a season pass to Disneyland which just expired last month..(it was a gift, and I can't see paying for another year). In the past year, while I've visited the place probably 6 or 7 times, I've never seen anything like you describe.

I'm quite opposed to illegal immigration, and yes, one does hear LOTS of Spanish spoken here. Some people who may "look" like they speak Spanish really don't very well...(my wife, son, and grandson are three examples). Yet that's balanced by those who may be ASSUMED not to speak it, and DO...(I'm an example)....yet huge numbers of people, almost NONE of whom speak English? I've honestly never seen that at Disneyland. Huge crowds of those who LOOK like they're tourists from other states...and other countries....but no domination by Spanish-speakers...(other than the large percentage who make up the local population).

I'm not in the habit of glossing things over....and I realize you MAY have had such an experience...but I never have..even though, prior to this past year, I hadn't been able to "afford" the place for probably 15 years....
There were a sprinking of other cultures and races, but not really. Believe me, I know it is expensive (dropped almost $500 last weekend on just stuff).

And I am not talking about people who just "look" like they speak spanish. The majority of people were speaking spanish...waiting in line for rides many of the people surrounding us gabbed in spanish, at mealtime, walking around, etc. We decided just to leave after the guy slapped my wife in the butt and laughed with his kids, we had had enough of it.


And, moreso than anything, I have taken my niece to virtually every park in So Cal (Six Flags, Knotts Berry Farm, Legoland, Universal Studios) and none of them are even close to the level of Disneyland in rudeness or spanish speakers.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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There were a sprinking of other cultures and races, but not really. Believe me, I know it is expensive (dropped almost $500 last weekend on just stuff).

And I am not talking about people who just "look" like they speak spanish. The majority of people were speaking spanish...waiting in line for rides many of the people surrounding us gabbed in spanish, at mealtime, walking around, etc.
I'm curious about why it bothers you when people around you speak a different language among themselves.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:55 PM
 
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It's a legitimate question. When you see a brown person, do you automatically think they are an illegal alien? Is there a way to tell the difference between those who are in this country legally and those who aren't?

I don't live in an area that has the problems that Cali does.
I am a brown person, not a mexican but brown nonethe less. We both know that the only way to positively identify a person as an illegal alien is to ascertain whether or not they have the proper credentials to be in the country legally.

That being said, most illegals give themselves away. Even those who have been here for a long period of time. It's really not rocket science.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 04:58 PM
 
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I am a brown person so your point is?

My point, again, is--(and I don't care if you're green and magenta striped) when you see a brown person, do you automatically think they are an illegal alien? Do you have a way to tell the illegals from the nons?
 
Old 05-24-2009, 05:02 PM
 
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My point, again, is--(and I don't care if you're green and magenta striped) when you see a brown person, do you automatically think they are an illegal alien? Do you have a way to tell the illegals from the nons?
You obviously equate brown people with being illegal aliens. That being said, I went back and revised my post go back and review it. Therein lies your answer.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 05:03 PM
 
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Why do you feel threatened by people speaking in Spanish? Do you think that it should be a requirement for them to speak English before being allowed admittance to Disneyland?
No, I usually enjoy seeing a multitude of cultures gather. When I was younger, and when I visited Universal Studios, we saw a great diversity of tourists and people from all around the world, Asia, Europe, etc. Everyone was generally nice, they did their own thing, they had their little english pocket dictionaries...it was all good. There were a few rude people, but you could just brush it off.

Disneyland was just a bunch of people who live here (many probably illegaly since speaking english is a requirement to gain/keep citizenship), speak no english, and are just totally rude to you.
 
Old 05-24-2009, 05:03 PM
 
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You obviously equate brown people with being illegal aliens. That being said, I went back and revised my post go back and review it. Therein lies your answer.

Actually, where I'm at I see brown people as being Native Americans.
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