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View Poll Results: Do You Support Passage of the DREAMAct?
Yes, they were brought here are innocent children 37 24.03%
No, they are nothing more than the 2nd generation of illegal alien criminals 117 75.97%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 154. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-30-2009, 01:59 PM
Status: "Make America the Great Joke Again" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Denver
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Deport all caught dreamies and illegal alien children. In addition, cut off their financial and social benefits and thus encourage the dreamies self-deport and so that they can return to their homelands and make them better places to live in than they were before.

HA! Maybe we should change this forum name to "Dream"...

The only way illegals will stop coming is if companies stop hiring them...that is it. Throw the big American money makers in jail.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:06 PM
 
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High School Records.
Falsified/forged documents such as drivers licenses, social security cards, etc. are not too difficult to come by. Do you suppose it would be extremely difficult to find a falsified high school record?
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Where laws can be ignored due to political correctness
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HA! Maybe we should change this forum name to "Dream"...

The only way illegals will stop coming is if companies stop hiring them...that is it. Throw the big American money makers in jail.
That's what many of us anti-illegals have been demanding for who-knows-how-many years.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:09 PM
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Location: Denver
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Falsified/forged documents such as drivers licenses, social security cards, etc. are not too difficult to come by. Do you suppose it would be extremely difficult to find a falsified high school record?
These records can easily be verified by the school, college admissions tend to do that.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why is someone living here on an expired visa, or having crossed a treacherous path to live here going to be necessarily "devoid of morals and fraught with criminality"?
Turn off the Dobbs already.
What do you call people who have a total disregard for our laws? Their entire lives are based on lying, cheating, and stealing. How can a parent instill morality and integrity in their children when their lives contradict their teachings? At the very least, its hypocritical.

No, these children have been taught that the end justifies the means; and that it perfectly acceptable to lie on an application, to steal an identity, to drive without a license, or anything they feel is necessary to get what they want. Do you think granting citizenship will magically transform these career fraudsters into law-abiding citizens?

And you can turn-off the La Raza.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:12 PM
Status: "Make America the Great Joke Again" (set 23 days ago)
 
Location: Denver
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That's what many of us anti-illegals have been demanding for who-knows-how-many years.
How's that going by the way? Companies own this government..
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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Yes. Consider the alternatives...

These kids have gone to high school here, have good moral character,(? HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?) and have been in the country for the last 5 years (Dream act criteria). Their families are illegal, but your government will not round up and deport these kids, AND their families most likely will not be able to afford out of state tuition.

That means these young kids will not go to college, but will still be in the US because nothing is going to be done to them.

What will they do, if they have no hope of going to college?

You either have to deport and keep them out, or consider them an asset. This country has chosen the latter historically.
What do our own children do when they have no hope of going to college??????????? Why would illegals be one up on our own kids??????? I say deport them and let their parents decide what to do with them. They DO NOT deserve more than our own kids deserve.
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These people can only think about the short term, not the long term benefit of letting these kids get educated and staying in the US.

They talk about "importing illiterate people and drop outs", yet they don't want them educated either.
I guess I'd be frustrated too if an illegal immigrant with more obstacles outdid me in education.
WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE PERIOD. Let them go back home and be educated there where they belong.

The only way an illegal can outdo an American in education is if it is handed to them on a silver platter. No other way. If illegals are GIVEN college, and our own kids have to PAY for college or not go, no one in their right mind would think that's fair.
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Most likely it will, but if your country is not going to deport them all and they cannot go to college...

Do you see the problem here? Do you want a bunch of kids roaming about the country with no hope?
We don't want them roaming OUR country, we want them roaming MEXICO.
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We are already educating them; and very few even graduate from high school, let alone attend college. If they want to attend college, fine. Let them pay for their college education at the higher foreign student rate. They certainly should not be rewarded, nor should their parents, with a path to citizenship.
I agree. Expect something from them instead of handing them everything.
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Given the rampant fraud committed by the illegal alien community, how would we even verify their residency in this country? If the DREAM Act passed, we would be flooded with illegals entering this country ALL claiming to have been here for the required period to become eligible for a path to citizenship. I dare say, they now have criminals preparing fraudulent documentation in the event this bill is passed.
They are all criminals. They have all broken our laws. What makes them deserving of anything our country has to offer? They do not deserve squat.
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Falsified/forged documents such as drivers licenses, social security cards, etc. are not too difficult to come by. Do you suppose it would be extremely difficult to find a falsified high school record?
They admit they falsify documents. They are proud of their blatant disregard of our laws.
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What do you call people who have a total disregard for our laws? Their entire lives are based on lying, cheating, and stealing. How can a parent instill morality and integrity in their children when their lives contradict their teachings? At the very least, its hypocritical.

No, these children have been taught that the end justifies the means; and that it perfectly acceptable to lie on an application, to steal an identity, to drive without a license, or anything they feel is necessary to get what they want. Do you think granting citizenship will magically transform these career fraudsters into law-abiding citizens?

And you can turn-off the La Raza.
They will lie and steal and cheat their entire lives. That's all they know.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Oh no, my level of comprehension is very high, and you sound like a threat to the public.
You weren't being as subtle as you think you were.
You made it clear that you fantasize about post-amnesty rioting with lives being lost. You sounded very excited and anticipating about it.
And you also insinuated that you would take place in any violence.

I hope there isn't many people on your side that take it as far as you do.

Oh please . . . . I'm laughing so hard I can barely breathe. You really need to seek help for that over-active imagination of yours.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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There are in fact mental disorders with a genetic basis, such as schizophrenia, which could predispose one to commit acts of violence. However, the environment in which a child is raised is also a major factor. If a child is raised in an environment fraught with criminal activity, a positive correlation can be found.
And you are too correct for comfort.

Monkey see=monkey do; for good or bad---------irrespective of race/ethnicity.
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Old 05-30-2009, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Oh no, my level of comprehension is very high, and you sound like a threat to the public.
You weren't being as subtle as you think you were.
You made it clear that you fantasize about post-amnesty rioting with lives being lost. You sounded very excited and anticipating about it.
And you also insinuated that you would take place in any violence.

I hope there isn't many people on your side that take it as far as you do.
Aiding and abetting illegal immigration is a threat to the public------------such individuals are de facto traitors and need to be tried/convicted accordingly under US law.
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