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Old 05-31-2009, 12:35 PM
 
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What will America stand for in 2050?
By Lawrence Harrison, Yahoo! Opinion / Christian Science Monitor
May 28, 2009

What will America stand for in 2050? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090528/cm_csm/yharrisonweb_1 - broken link)

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It's not just a short-run issue of immigrants competing with citizens for jobs as unemployment approaches 10 percent or the number of uninsured straining the quality of healthcare. Heavy immigration from Latin America threatens our cohesiveness as a nation.

The political realities of the rapidly growing Latino population are such that Mr. Obama may be the last president who can avert the permanent, vast underclass implied by the current Census Bureau projection for 2050.

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Old 05-31-2009, 01:38 PM
 
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By 2050, I doubt America will be a prominent, "shining example" of the country it once was; we're well on our way to becoming more like 'just any other place'. If that happens, (and I have no doubt it will) what we 'stand for' may become a moot point. After all, what does The Netherlands 'stand for'? What about France, or South Africa? Mexico? Lithuania? Turkey? Portugal? What do ANY of these places 'stand for'....and of what interest is it to anybody but their own citizens? These places aren't "bad"....they're not particularly poor..they're just not seen as particularly relevant to the rest of the world; nor, by 2050, will we in the US be. Multiculturalism, lack of common values, and a generalized societal guilt will inevitably lead us to abandon our place as a world leader, and someone ELSE will 'step up to the plate' and assume that role (maybe China). Then, no one will ask..nor will they CARE..what we 'stand for'. We'll all be wondering "what China stands for". We'll still be here...we just won't be admired, copied, or 'looked up to' anymore....and 'what we stand for' won't be of interest to anybody...maybe not even to us.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:53 PM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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Very Spot on Article.. The impact of Illegal Immigration has taken it's toll on many of the poorer U.S. communities as well as on taxpayers.. That toll will continue to rise if the purse strings are not cut..
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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The moral relativism that has infected the government will ensure that the US will not stand for anything by 2050.

Also, America used to strive to become a true melting pot country. In the past few deacdes with the rise of identity and racial politics, the country is becoming more like a salad. The balkinization of the US is occurring at a rapid pace. Now I don't know if this will lead to the breakup of the country but it is troubling to me.

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Old 05-31-2009, 02:04 PM
 
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By 2050 the United States is going to have the largest Mexican population in the world, surpassing Mexico. That is if the U.S government continues to do nothing to fix the problem of massive illegal immigration.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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for sleaze and a quick buck if you are really hungry.
we can change it now but everybody has got to take a shower asap and start doin right.

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Old 05-31-2009, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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By 2050 the United States is going to have the largest Mexican population in the world, surpassing Mexico. That is if the U.S government continues to do nothing to fix the problem of massive illegal immigration.
Looking at the crashing birthrate SoB; I doubt it.

As it is; immigration apparently has slowed to a crawl--------------judging by the exorbitant fee the coyotes charge, I believe it.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:13 PM
 
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Looking at the crashing birthrate SoB; I doubt it.

As it is; immigration apparently has slowed to a crawl--------------judging by the exorbitant fee the coyotes charge, I believe it.
I sure do hope you are right.
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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Looking at the crashing birthrate SoB; I doubt it.
What crashing birthrate?
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Old 05-31-2009, 02:42 PM
 
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Most Americans are unaware of the key differences between the "United States of America" and the world. Thus, what "we stand for" is already gone, regardless of the characteristics of the progeny that inhabit her future.

I was in my late 30s, when I stumbled upon the key differences, hidden in plain sight. As a product of government sponsored indoctrination, I was shocked to learn that I was misled on many points.

America's uniqueness
  1. American people are sovereigns, not subject citizens, until they consent.
  2. American people could absolutely own themselves, their labor and that which they acquired by their lawful endeavors.
  3. Each state was a unique and diverse sovereignty, in union with others, and not a subset of a homogeneous nation.
  4. Americans had the power to "vote with their feet" in protest of local laws, changing their domicile, but without leaving the U.S.A.
  5. Government was instituted to serve the people, not the reverse.
Why have they been changed?

Ah, you wish to know the 'great secret'...

In American law, we know that the constitutional government has promised to secure private property rights.

Amendment V, US Constitution 1789
... nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
From the Communist manifesto:
"In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."
What is "private property" that is abolished by "collective ownership"?
PRIVATE PROPERTY - "As protected from being taken for public uses, is such property as belongs absolutely to an individual, and of which he has the exclusive right of disposition. Property of a specific, fixed and tangible nature, capable of being in possession and transmitted to another, such as houses, lands, and chattels."
- - - Black's Law dictionary, sixth ed., p.1217
Private property means absolute ownership by an individual - not two, or more - of land, houses, chattels, in other words - everything. And if the government can TAKE IT FROM YOU, without paying just compensation, it cannot be private property.
COMMUNISM - the ownership of property, or means of production, distribution and supply, by the whole of a classless society, with wealth shared on the principle of 'to each according to his need', each yielding fully 'according to his ability'.
- - - Webster's Dictionary.

SOCIALISM - A political and economic theory advocating collective ownership of the means of production and control of distribution. It is based upon the belief that all, while contributing to the good of the community, are equally entitled to the care and protection which the community can provide.
--- Webster's dictionary
Since 1935, and the institution of "voluntary" national socialism (aka Social Security) that which America stood for was lost. Every American who 'signed up' for the entitlement program ( public charity ), surrendered their birthright of sovereignty, freedom and liberty that the founding generation gave us.

That's why the good socialist Americans must first petition for permission (license) before they can build a house, enter occupations, travel on the public roads, own a dog, carry a firearm, operate a business, or marry. And still they believe themselves to be "FREE MEN" !?!

References:
"People are supreme, not the state."
Waring v. the Mayor of Savannah, 60 GA at 93.

"The people of the state, as the successors of its former sovereign, are entitled to all the rights which formerly belonged to the king by his own prerogative."
Lansing v. Smith, (1829) 4 Wendell 9, (NY)

"At the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people and they are truly the sovereigns of the country."
Chisholm v. Georgia, 2 Dall. 440, 463

"Government is not Sovereignty. Government is the machinery or expedient for expressing the will of the sovereign power."
City of Bisbee v. Cochise County, 78 P. 2d 982, 986, 52 Ariz. 1

"... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to the term "subject" in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government. ... he who before was a "subject of the King" is now a citizen of the State."
State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)

Sovereignty and citizenship are mutually exclusive. No sovereign is a subject citizen. (Ex: The Queen of England is not an English citizen.)

Once you grasp that point, you will comprehend that the U.S. president is NOT the 'leader of the free world', but merely the highest ranking public servant, below the lowest of the sovereign American people. And all the special privileges and perquisites bestowed upon him, is anathema to the spirit of America, and evidence of the political inversion. For now, the people ("human resources") must sacrifice the majority of their working lives, surrendering their wealth via socialist taxes, to the behemoth government, and to those who control it.

Welcome to the United Socialist States of America.
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