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Old 06-05-2009, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Old 06-05-2009, 03:47 AM
 
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Drivers License For Undocumented Immigrats
FOR ALL OUT THERE, THERE IS A WAY TO GET YOUR DRIVERS LICENSE HERE IS HOW. AFTER MUCH RESEARCH OUT OF SEVEN STATES THAT DIDN'T ASK FOR A SSN ONLY ONE HOLDS TRUE, THE AMAZING STATE OF UTAH!. HERE IS WHAT YOU NEED:
1. A ITIN
2.TWO PROOFS OF RESIDENCY OF UTAH (NOT OF LEGAL STATUS)
3. TWO IDS (MEXICAN PASSPORT, COLLEGE ID, OR ANY THAT SEEMS LEGIT)
4. A CAR , FULLY REGISTER AND INSURE

IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO UTAH BE CAREFUL SINCE ICE POLICE AND IMMIGRATION KNOWS ABOUT THESE . THERE ARE VARIOUS CHECK POINTS AVOID AT ALL COST SALT LAKE CITY SINCE IS THE HQ FOR IMMIGRATION. ALSO NEVER TAKE THE TRAIN, THE BUS NOR PLANE OR ANY MEANS OF MASSIVE TRANSPORTATION. IF YOU CAN GET A FRIEND OR SIBLING WITH LEGAL STATUS TAKE YOU TO THE DMV.
BEFORE YOU MAKE THE TRIP CALL THE UTAH DMV

Utah Department of Public Safety

Driver License Division
Third Floor - South
4501 South 2700 West
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114
Administration: (801) 965-4437 (During Business Hours)
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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Gotta love those Illegal Alien Criminals.. Always trying to creatively break the law..
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Gotta love those Illegal Alien Criminals.. Always trying to creatively break the law..
How is that breaking the law? if any that post is how to follow the law in order to get a license.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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How is that breaking the law? if any that post is how to follow the law in order to get a license.
Illegal aliens by definition are criminals factoring in their other crimes (ID theft, non reporting of income, etc).

As for the DREAMie losers; they may return home and stay there; us Americans do not want their kind.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:32 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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How is that breaking the law? if any that post is how to follow the law in order to get a license.
IF the post REALLY wanted to explain "Following the law", it would explain, in detail to Illegal Aliens how to travel back to their country of orgin, how to get jobs in their country of orgin, and how to build a better economy and a better society in their country of orgin..
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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IF the post REALLY wanted to explain "Following the law", it would explain, in detail to Illegal Aliens how to travel back to their country of orgin, how to get jobs in their country of orgin, and how to build a better economy and a better society in their country of orgin..

There are many laws, and the laws that you talk about is not the one this post is talking about. The focus of this post is how to legally get a drivers license.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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There are many laws, and the laws that you talk about is not the one this post is talking about. The focus of this post is how to legally get a drivers license.
First: you have to be in the USA legally to get a DL------------which precludes illegal aliens.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:53 AM
 
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There are many laws, and the laws that you talk about is not the one this post is talking about. The focus of this post is how to legally get a drivers license.
If this is all completely legal and above board, then why is this little caveat thrown in?

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IF YOU ARE GOING TO GO TO UTAH BE CAREFUL SINCE ICE POLICE AND IMMIGRATION KNOWS ABOUT THESE . THERE ARE VARIOUS CHECK POINTS AVOID AT ALL COST SALT LAKE CITY SINCE IS THE HQ FOR IMMIGRATION. ALSO NEVER TAKE THE TRAIN, THE BUS NOR PLANE OR ANY MEANS OF MASSIVE TRANSPORTATION. IF YOU CAN GET A FRIEND OR SIBLING WITH LEGAL STATUS TAKE YOU TO THE DMV.
BEFORE YOU MAKE THE TRIP CALL THE UTAH DMV
Why are the potential IA license holders of Utah being told to be careful, avoid check points at all cost, avoid Salt Lake City, never take the train, bus, plane or any mass transit, get a legal friend or sibling (assuming you have one) to drive you to the DMV and call ahead (why? to make sure ICE is not there).

You see, I have an IL drivers license. I do not avoid traffic check points because I have no reason to. I drive into Chicago whenever I please. If I wish to take the train or bus, I pay my money and get on board. I do not need anyone to accompany me on trips to the DMV and the only reason I might call ahead is to make sure they are going to be open. But then again, I am a legal citizen of the US.
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Old 06-05-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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There are many laws, and the laws that you talk about is not the one this post is talking about. The focus of this post is how to legally get a drivers license.
Yes, NOW. Prior to realizing the opposition had discovered their site, and many were forwarding their threads to members of Congress, they routinely posted threads instructing DREAMies on how to illegally obtain a driver’s license, and how to work using a fake or stolen SSN. In addition, they had threads instructing members on how to fraudulently receive in-state tuition without meeting the qualifications of high school attendance, or state residency.

That site was a compilation of every trick in the trade. I couldn’t believe how incredibly stupid they were to post such flagrant criminal activities on a public internet forum. So yes, NOW they will close a thread, or admonish posters for mentioning their illegal activities, but that wasn’t always their policy. Previously, it was also a site replete with profanity, vulgarity, and blatant racism. . . yes, racism. Now, they reserve their ‘real’ discussions for their “secret” chat rooms; which incidentally, aren’t quite as secret as they believe.

Their illegal behavior is to be expected from people whose entire lives are based on deception and evading law enforcement.

Notice the comments in this thread. They know they are being scrutinized.
http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=11585
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