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Old 06-08-2009, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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...too bad...

They should have considered that before they came here ILLEGALLY.....They should have weighed the consequences of entering a foreign, sovereign nation without permission....

If they sat down and really THOUGHT about what they were doing...they might have reconsidered...but the stupid systems on BOTH sides of the border breed nothing but a cult-ure of "no consequences self-pity" that dupes people on BOTH sides of the border into believing that there could simply NEVER be ANY negative consequences of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION....


...too bad...
#1. They did think about it. They simply don't care & do it anyway. If you object to illegals you must be "racist".

#2. Mexican culture is all about "right now, me & self-pity". "La Raza" really means "Thank you American Gringos". now, wheres the dollars?????

#3. Jackpot baby hits the nail on the head, way better than anchor baby & much more descriptive. Babies=welfare, food stamps and public housing. More babies=paycheck.

#4. My "sympathy lever is broken & my I don't give a damn button is worn out" , If you are here without documents, GO HOME.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:33 PM
 
Location: deep in the south
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Default Still no sympathy

When I couldn't find any work due to these people low balling our wages I had to relocate 1600 miles away to find work to support my disabled husband and 3 minor children........I didn't see anyone crying about the fact that I was missing seeing my children grow up. There wasn't enough money to move them with me so they stayed home with their dad and I saw them on vacations, it was a rough 8 years until the youngest was on his own and I could come back home here and work a lesser paying job and be able to survive. Hubby and I CHOSE to have our kids and that means taking responsibility for raising them ourselves and providing for them. I could have taken a lower paying job locally back then and had the taxpayer supplement my earning with food stamps, a medical card and section 8 housing but I wouldn't be able to hold my head as high as I do and tho my kids missed me and I was missing a lot too, they too know what it took to give them a decent life and teach them that we are RESPONSIBLE for our actions, such as deciding to have children. They have all grown into fine young men who take their personal responsibilities seriously, they are hard workers and are instilling the same values in the children they have decided to have. I think these people are a disgrace for the values they instill in their children and for using them as pawns in their schemes.........while many of them are hard working they are teaching these children it is ok to break the law as a means to an end when they come here illegally in the first place so where do they draw the line on lawlessness. Again, it is only their choice to leave their kids behind......not mine and I feel no sympathy for them.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:34 PM
 
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When I couldn't find any work due to these people low balling our wages I had to relocate 1600 miles away to find work to support my disabled husband and 3 minor children........I didn't see anyone crying about the fact that I was missing seeing my children grow up. There wasn't enough money to move them with me so they stayed home with their dad and I saw them on vacations, it was a rough 8 years until the youngest was on his own and I could come back home here and work a lesser paying job and be able to survive. Hubby and I CHOSE to have our kids and that means taking responsibility for raising them ourselves and providing for them. I could have taken a lower paying job locally back then and had the taxpayer supplement my earning with food stamps, a medical card and section 8 housing but I wouldn't be able to hold my head as high as I do and tho my kids missed me and I was missing a lot too, they too know what it took to give them a decent life and teach them that we are RESPONSIBLE for our actions, such as deciding to have children. They have all grown into fine young men who take their personal responsibilities seriously, they are hard workers and are instilling the same values in the children they have decided to have. I think these people are a disgrace for the values they instill in their children and for using them as pawns in their schemes.........while many of them are hard working they are teaching these children it is ok to break the law as a means to an end when they come here illegally in the first place so where do they draw the line on lawlessness. Again, it is only their choice to leave their kids behind......not mine and I feel no sympathy for them.

They are Illegals send them back and have their kids put up for adoption. Any Anchor baby needs to be put up for Adoption the minute its born.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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When I couldn't find any work due to these people low balling our wages I had to relocate 1600 miles away to find work to support my disabled husband and 3 minor children........I didn't see anyone crying about the fact that I was missing seeing my children grow up. There wasn't enough money to move them with me so they stayed home with their dad and I saw them on vacations, it was a rough 8 years until the youngest was on his own and I could come back home here and work a lesser paying job and be able to survive. Hubby and I CHOSE to have our kids and that means taking responsibility for raising them ourselves and providing for them. I could have taken a lower paying job locally back then and had the taxpayer supplement my earning with food stamps, a medical card and section 8 housing but I wouldn't be able to hold my head as high as I do and tho my kids missed me and I was missing a lot too, they too know what it took to give them a decent life and teach them that we are RESPONSIBLE for our actions, such as deciding to have children. They have all grown into fine young men who take their personal responsibilities seriously, they are hard workers and are instilling the same values in the children they have decided to have. I think these people are a disgrace for the values they instill in their children and for using them as pawns in their schemes.........while many of them are hard working they are teaching these children it is ok to break the law as a means to an end when they come here illegally in the first place so where do they draw the line on lawlessness. Again, it is only their choice to leave their kids behind......not mine and I feel no sympathy for them.
I applaude your efforts. That was a hard decision to make. Bravo.
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Old 06-08-2009, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Helena, Montana
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maybe honorable is not the right word...

noble?

selfless?
Some, yes. Some just don't give a crap about their kids, including the ones that are left in Mexico without a mother or father. But ALL of them are not being selfless and noble, some just flat out don't care.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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you know very little about mexican culture.

#2 makes you sound very uninformed and prejudiced.
especially since we are talking about illegals. and not mexicans.


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#1. They did think about it. They simply don't care & do it anyway. If you object to illegals you must be "racist".

#2. Mexican culture is all about "right now, me & self-pity". "La Raza" really means "Thank you American Gringos". now, wheres the dollars?????

#3. Jackpot baby hits the nail on the head, way better than anchor baby & much more descriptive. Babies=welfare, food stamps and public housing. More babies=paycheck.

#4. My "sympathy lever is broken & my I don't give a damn button is worn out" , If you are here without documents, GO HOME.
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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http://www.detnews.com/article/20090608/METRO/906080359/Illegal-immigration-s-fallout--Families-split-as-deportations-grow (broken link)



Part of me is very glad to see deportation policies actually being enforced even when the people have children. That said, I can't help but feel bad for the kids. I think we should all remember that their circumstances are their parents' fault and not anyone else's.
Sorry, tough luck for them.
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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you know very little about mexican culture.

#2 makes you sound very uninformed and prejudiced.
especially since we are talking about illegals. and not mexicans.
You also are very uninformed when it comes to Mexican culture these days.
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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how so? i dont make sweeping generalizations about self pity and instant gratification like others do.

how am i uninformed?

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You also are very uninformed when it comes to Mexican culture these days.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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how so? i dont make sweeping generalizations about self pity and instant gratification like others do.

how am i uninformed?
When you talk about illegals in this country, you show your ignorance about them.
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