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At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
Your post has a couple of inaccuracies. First, Americans of English descent are not the largest ethnic group. The largest ethnicity claimed by non-Hispanic whites, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, is German, with 17.1% of whites claiming such; followed by 12% of whites claiming Irish ancestry, and then coming in at third place is English, with 9% of whites claiming such. Followed by, Italian, Polish, French, Scottish, etc.
Concerning your use of the word Hispanic: "Hispania" was what the Romans called the Iberian peninsula (modern day Spain & Portugal). Hispania is different than "Hispanic." Anyway, you claimed that "Hispanic" is an ethnicity. It is no such thing. You have, in effect, twisted around the term to mean something completely different than what it was "invented" for. A Hispanic person can be from any of a number of ethnicities; and can also be of any race. So when you lump all Hispanics together what you are essentially doing is robbing each individual ethnicity of it's uniqueness, i.e.; an Argentinian-American is seperate and unique from a Cuban-American.
In 1960 the U.S. Census Bureau was searching for a term to refer to U.S. citizens and legal residents who could trace their ancestry to either Spain or a Spanish speaking country. Hence, the word/term "Hispanic."
Something interesting started to occur (erroneously) and is still perpetrated: that is, people usually make the mistake of refering to citizens of Spanish speaking countries as "Hispanics." For example, a Mexican citizen who lives in Acapulco is a "Mexicano" (Mexican), not a Hispanic. However, if he enters the U.S. legally then he can be correctly called a Hispanic. In other words, "Hispanic" is a term for Americans who can trace their lineage to a Spanish speaking country; not for non-Americans. The question now is: if that same Mexican enters the U.S. illegally can he be correctly labeled as Hispanic? The answer is ~ NO. The correct term would not be Hispanic, but rather: Mexican National, or more specifically (politically correct) an undocumented Mexican National.
<<the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications>>
Now they're overplayed that card by calling anyone who doesn't agree with them a racist, which has angered many citizens, and made the term ineffective. They've cried wolf too often.
At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
Having Mexican flags waved in my face by illegals demanding rights, saying this is their land anyway, and claiming they had committed no crime by being here illegally did harden my attitudes towards them, for sure. They are the racists, not me.
Hmmm... the OP has a user name the same as that of a savage criminal gang. Then he plays up the 'victim card' and opines about how angry hispanics are about not being able to freely continue their criminal invasion of our country, then closes with a threat about "repercussions". Kinda destroys any credibility...
Last edited by Workin_Hard; 09-01-2009 at 06:14 AM..
No what kills reform is weak leadership in DC. This common problem is a result of our elected reps with poor priorties.
1. Get re-elected
2. Stay in bed with the most powerful lobbies
3. Focus on certain voter demograghics
4. Never ask if this is good for my country
Right now They fear the hispanic vote. But they also fear the rest of the vote. Better to give lip service and do nothing than to act either way.
Pelosi " It is unamerican to enforce immigration laws"
Add to this the bleeding hearts who actually believe that its no big deal.
At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
You are correct: the repercussions are may indeed be permanent-------------against self described Hispanics as a group courtesy of those illegal alien losers from Mexico, etc. What truly angers me is that the true blue Americans of 'Hispanic' lineage have been endangered by the above.
Otherwise: let the above get angry..........which will impel our government to cancel Affirmative Action, mandate English as our official tongue (no more bilingual education), and really start 'profiling' Spanish speakers for their deportation/seizure of assets.
Yes; Latin King, us Americans are now angry and we want justice
At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
(yawn) racism blah blah blah --- so terribly old.
I'll tell you what LatinKing - go over to the politics and controversy board and set up a poll asking people if they are for or against amnesty and see what you get --
Actually you can just look at past polls and threads over there regarding illegal immigration and you know what you will find? Far left liberals and Neo Cons and everyone in between in agreement that illegals have no business in the US and ought to be deported. It is an amazing and heartwarming sight to see people who are normally at one anothers throats in complete agreement over this one issue.
If anyone has overplayed their card it would be the illegals and their apologists. Whatever sympathy they once had is gone now, and threats about how 'we are the largest minority group and the rest of you will pay' is hardly endearing to the rest of us - you know, Americans of all descents, ethnicities, races and religions.
At one point in time, a few years ago, it seemed as if the anti undocmented movement was gaining momentum, however soon after, the radicals made it a racial issue against hipanics, and that was a terrible mistake. It made the hispanics very angry, for which they formed a united front with significant political implications.
As we know hispanics are a huge ethnic group in america, only second to americans of english descent. Hispanics have a huge political power, they can sway elections at any time, just like they did in the last presidential election, making Obama out of reach, for that reason it would be political suicide for most politicians to make legislation that the hispanics won't like, so any vote that will disrupt the hispanic family, is not going to go through.
This attitute among hispanics was brought about by the very small minority of intolerants, and the repercussions will be permanent...
No, it is you Hispanics who made illegal immigration a racist issue. Let's face it illegals come from all over but the huge majority come from south of our border. So your side decided to use that as a basis for racism. Hispanics are not a huge political power. There are only 40 million of them in this country and that probably includes the illegals and children not old enough to vote. Politicians are supposed to make legislation that is in the best interests of the majority not special interest groups.
Let Hispanic citizens get angry then. It just shows how ethnically driven they are rather than nationally driven. That is precisely why we shouldn't legalized these illegals from south of our border. They are of the same tribal mentality that their citizens counterparts are. Arrogant, demanding and totally self-absorbed. That isn't what this country is about. It is about all citizens working together to do what is best for our entire nation rather than group interests. No, vocal Americans against illegal immigration did not create an attitude among Hispanics. That attitude was already there. It is just that now that they know they aren't going to get their way they are stomping their little feet and screaming racism. There is nothing racist about having or enforcing our immigration laws. Not our fault that most of the illegals are from south of our border. But ethnocentric Hispanics have decided to use that against us as basis for racism. Ain't gonna fly anymore!
Hmmm... the OP has a user name the same as that of a savage criminal gang. Then he plays up the 'victim card' and opines about how angry hispanics are about not being able to freely continue their criminal invasion of our country, then closes with a threat about "repercussions". Kinda destroys any credibility...
While I cognize the point you are trying to bespeak, I don't think it destroys Latin King's credibility. First, it is a fragile assupmtion that he choose such a username due to the fact that he is a member of the gang or because he espouses said gang's philosophies. Second, even if he were a member of the aforementioned organized crime syndicate, he is still entitled to opine from on an equal plane, accordant with the customary rules governing debate. .
Anyway, if everyone automatically judged a poster by his/her username these debates would never get off the ground. For example: I don't actually see every issue so black & white; is 'ArizonaBear' really a bear from a south-western state? And, I doubt 'chicagonut' is a crazy guy.
I think the validity of my point is evidenced by the fact that the OP's thread is being recognized and engaged.
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