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Old 06-09-2009, 06:12 PM
Location: Mesa, Az
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Originally Posted by borderlord View Post

I am waiting for the responses from the opposition....
Could be interesting or it could be the same old tired arguements.....
That article sure as hell shoots holes in the theory that racism is a major cause of Latin America's woes...............

Hell: Argentina is the 'Whitest' nation in the New World yet its per capita income is just a scotch above mostly Mestizo/Indian Mexico. Worse; the main ethnicities of the former are Italian and Spanish------------yet, the ancestral nations of the above (Italy and Spain) are now extremely affluent which again negates 'racism' as the cause of Argentina's woes.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:15 PM
Location: California
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Then why is it that people continue to ignore the source of their own problems and do something to correct the situation ?

Of course, I suspect that I could ask the same question of the American electorate.
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Old 06-10-2009, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by borderlord View Post
Thanks, JD'sMom

I think it's time for a new approach to the problem....maybe this post will help.

Yes, acknowledging that a problem exists and taking an honest look at the reasons for the problem is an important step in trying to solve it.

Mexico and other Latin American nations should have addressed the reasons for poverty and illiteracy a long time ago. Maybe analyzed why certain countries in the Western hemisphere were doing so much better and what were the various factors including historical and cultural reasons for that.

Instead they took the approach that their large numbers of fast reproducing very impoverished people could be exploited for the purpose of harvesting American dollars to be sent to Mexico as remittances which would then filter their way up to the elites. They worked to build a disapora instead of working to improve conditions so that people might stay and improve their lives.
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Old 06-10-2009, 12:10 AM
Location: Staten Island, New York
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Originally Posted by borderlord View Post
Mods, While this article does not deal with illegal immigration directly.I feel it does underscore the underlying reasons for the problem.

Feel free to modify,move, or even delete it if in fact it violates some rule.

Thanks for Your time.


that every time Caribbean and Latin American countries meet with the President of the United States of America itís to ask for something or complain about things. Almost always, itís to blame the United States for our past, present and future problems. I donít think thatís completely fair

"We mustnít forget that Latin America had universities before the United States created Harvard or William & Mary, which were the first universities in that country. We canít forget that on this continent, as well as the world over, at least until 1750 all Americans were more or less equal: all were poor

"When the Industrial Revolution began in England other countries jumped on the bandwagon: Germany, France, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. And the Industrial Revolution passed over Latin America like a comet and we didnít even realize it. We certainly lost our opportunity
"There is a very great differenceiIf one reads the history of Latin America and compares it to the history of the United States, one understands that Latin America did not have a Spanish or Portuguese John Winthrop who, with Bible in hand, was willing to build 'a city on a hill,' a city that would shine, as was the objective of the pilgrims who arrived in the United States"50 years ago Mexico was richer than Portugal. In 1950 a country like Brazil had a higher income per capita than South Korea. 60 years ago Honduras had more wealth per capital than Singapore, and today Singapore, over a period of about 35-40 years, has increased its annual income per capita to $40,000 per inhabitant
"Well, Latin Americans did something wrong"What did we do wrong? I canít count the things weíve done wrong. To begin with, we have an average of seven years of education. Thatís the average education level in Latin America and that is not the case with most Asian countries. Certainly that is not the case with the United States and Canada, which have the best education in the world, similar to that of Europeans. Of every ten students who enter high school in Latin America, in some countries only one completes high school. There are countries that have an infant mortality rate of 50 per 1000, when the average in more advanced Asian countries is 8, 9, or 10.....


Nice change of pace. Thanks..
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