If all illegal aliens were legal..? (deport, school, programs, kids)

[Kellem]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

Considering that point, the illegals in my old neighborhood you wouldn't like. They liked to have 30 cars parked infront of their house (sometimes double parked, blocking my driveway), along with the livestock in their back yards (nothing like being woken up by a rooster at the crack of dawn everyday). That, and I had to call the cops twice because of gang fights in the middle of the street.

How come you live in such an area? I have been to Cali several times, and not once been woken up by a rooster. Even in the San Diego area, wi]hile staying at a friends house in La Jolla, CA. This was not a common sight.

Also when I stayed in the SF area (Santa Clara?), when I was doing some projects with Intel, I did not see anything like what you are talking about. How come you haven't moved to a neighbourhood more of your liking?

[Bill Keegan]

Originally Posted by Kellem

How come you live in such an area? I have been to Cali several times, and not once been woken up by a rooster. Even in the San Diego area, wi]hile staying at a friends house in La Jolla, CA. This was not a common sight.

Also when I stayed in the SF area (Santa Clara?), when I was doing some projects with Intel, I did not see anything like what you are talking about. How come you haven't moved to a neighbourhood more of your liking?

Do we really want to tell an American citizen that they need to get out of their house and neighborhood and find a new one, instead of getting rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS who are making it a lousy place to live? Really?

[Kellem]

Originally Posted by Bill Keegan

Do we really want to tell an American citizen that they need to get out of their house and neighborhood and find a new one, instead of getting rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS who are making it a lousy place to live? Really?

I never said that they needed to, but he says he doesn't like his neighbourhood. He can stay, maybe some people like the rooster in the morning so they can move in. If I don't like where I'm living, I move.

If a bunch of people came over to mine who I don't like my family hanging out with I would move. Again, what would you do if you go out to those families, and find out that they are not illegal aliens, they just happened to have migrated through family migration.

And besides, how are these uneducated individual, that come form such poor background able to afford the same houses that you guys can afford. Paying for a $600-700K is not that easy even if you pile a bunch of people in there, specially when they do not have financial stability.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by Kellem

How come you live in such an area? I have been to Cali several times, and not once been woken up by a rooster. Even in the San Diego area, wi]hile staying at a friends house in La Jolla, CA. This was not a common sight.

Also when I stayed in the SF area (Santa Clara?), when I was doing some projects with Intel, I did not see anything like what you are talking about. How come you haven't moved to a neighbourhood more of your liking?

I did have to move. Point is, I was there first, and since I could stand what my neighborhood had become I moved. This is happening all over the country. This is a major reason so many are upset over illegal immigration. So since you seem to have an answer for everything, what should I have done? Stayed in a neighborhood that I could no longer stand and was no longer safe for my children? How was I WRONG and the illegals right in this situation?

[tinman01]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I did have to move. Point is, I was there first, and since I could stand what my neighborhood had become I moved. This is happening all over the country. This is a major reason so many are upset over illegal immigration. So since you seem to have an answer for everything, what should I have done? Stayed in a neighborhood that I could no longer stand and was no longer safe for my children? How was I WRONG and the illegals right in this situation?

No you should not be forced to move... Those who decide to move into your neighborhood need to adapt to the neighborhood not the other way around.
legal or illegal is irrelevant.
But you are correct. They come here supposedly for a better life and yet do their level best to transform it into what they left behind.

[Kellem]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I did have to move. Point is, I was there first, and since I could stand what my neighborhood had become I moved. This is happening all over the country. This is a major reason so many are upset over illegal immigration. So since you seem to have an answer for everything, what should I have done? Stayed in a neighborhood that I could no longer stand and was no longer safe for my children? How was I WRONG and the illegals right in this situation?

I think was you do was right, you looked after your family and I would have done the same. I am not saying that you were not there first, or that you have not lived there longer, but you didn't like what was happening to the nighborhood so you moved.

The same thing happens when, specially old people, have huge house near city centers, and around comes the development companies or wealthy people. The city re-zones, the development companies or wealthy individuals rebuild exponentially increasing the cost of the houses in the neighbourhood. And people who can no longer afford to live in the neighbourhood has to move. They take a big gain on their property values but they have t move because they can no longer afford to live there.

Same, if a company that hires tens of thousands of employers goes belly up, the housing around it goes to the floor, and poorer people start to move there. Likely more people living in one house, more rund down cars, more cars to a place, and maybe even someone brings a rooster. This is not just a illegal immigration problem. If you don't like where you are living, then move. There is plenty of other places that you would find to your liking.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by Kellem

I think was you do was right, you looked after your family and I would have done the same. I am not saying that you were not there first, or that you have not lived there longer, but you didn't like what was happening to the nighborhood so you moved.

The same thing happens when, specially old people, have huge house near city centers, and around comes the development companies or wealthy people. The city re-zones, the development companies or wealthy individuals rebuild exponentially increasing the cost of the houses in the neighbourhood. And people who can no longer afford to live in the neighbourhood has to move. They take a big gain on their property values but they have t move because they can no longer afford to live there.

Same, if a company that hires tens of thousands of employers goes belly up, the housing around it goes to the floor, and poorer people start to move there. Likely more people living in one house, more rund down cars, more cars to a place, and maybe even someone brings a rooster. This is not just a illegal immigration problem. If you don't like where you are living, then move. There is plenty of other places that you would find to your liking.

No. This is MY HOME, I shouldn't have to move. I should be able to count on my government to do it's job and keep these people out of my home. When does it end? First my neighborhood, then my city, then my state.....when the illegals take over the country should I have to move to a country "more to my liking"?

[Ciaerin]

The point is, not everyone can afford to just move away if they are being hassled by these morally bankrupt people. And yes they are morally bankrupt. They moved from someplace because they did not like it and try their dangedest to make it like where they moved from. What is that about? If their place was so bad, why are they trying to recreate it here.

Want to know my ideas on how to fix America? Deport all illegals, impose a moritorium on legal immigration til we get our ducks in a row. We need to worry about American citizens at this time. If we can not take care of our own, how the hell can we take care of millions of people from other countries. I also think that we should charge the home countries for the room and board of their criminals. Remove the anchor loophole and chain migration. Once we are finally on our feet, then open up legal immigration to people that will help us become #1 again. College grads, doctors, people that will fill a need after our citizens are back to work. Also shut off welfare after a set amount of time if they are not trying to become employed. There will be no reason not to work after we open up all the jobs illegals have taken. I do not care if people do not want to pick fruit. Deal with it. Get a job, pay taxes and watch our debt sink and our countries poverty levels sink right with it.

[the one]

is this an illegal issue, or a bad neighbor issue. because honestly, how can you tell who is legal or illegal?



when black folk moved to south central LA from the south. they also brought their animals. a rooster waking you up does not mean it is an illegals rooster.

at the end of the day you can always call animal control.

aint no one pushin me out of my neighborhood.

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

No. This is MY HOME, I shouldn't have to move. I should be able to count on my government to do it's job and keep these people out of my home. When does it end? First my neighborhood, then my city, then my state.....when the illegals take over the country should I have to move to a country "more to my liking"?

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by the one

is this an illegal issue, or a bad neighbor issue. because honestly, how can you tell who is legal or illegal?



when black folk moved to south central LA from the south. they also brought their animals. a rooster waking you up does not mean it is an illegals rooster.

at the end of the day you can always call animal control.

aint no one pushin me out of my neighborhood.

My wife worked with people who were involved/related to people in that house. One of the girls she worked with had a boyfriend who lived in that house, and he got deported twice in the 2 years I lived there. Each time he was deported, she would come to work with her sob story, and both times he was back within a month. All but 2-3 people in that house were illegal, and that is fact, not speculation.