Deportation deferred for student, 23, who didn't know he was "undocumented" (illegal, holidays)

[contachster]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

I can safely say that 100% of all illegal aliens age 18 and up are indeed criminals so what is your point?

You stated that comparing the illegal immigrant to another type of criminal is apples and oranges so I asked why do you impose such a double standard?

[Benicar]

IF this story is true; and that’s a big IF. . . . . it’s unfortunate his parents have created his current predicament. I do find this extremely difficult to believe, given the fact that a birth certificate is required for many situations in life prior to the age of 23. I simply can’t believe he would not have realized he was not a citizen of this country.

If he is permitted to remain in this country, a legal precedent will be set for illegal aliens brought to this country as children. Consequently, we could create another magnet for illegal immigration -- just enter the country prior to age ___, and you will be permitted to remain in the country, and ultimately granted citizenship. This is definitely not a precedent we should be setting.

[mkfarnam]

Originally Posted by Benicar

IF this story is true; and that’s a big IF. . . . . it’s unfortunate his parents have created his current predicament. I do find this extremely difficult to believe, given the fact that a birth certificate is required for many situations in life prior to the age of 23. I simply can’t believe he would not have realized he was not a citizen of this country.

If he is permitted to remain in this country, a legal precedent will be set for illegal aliens brought to this country as children. Consequently,

. This is definitely not a precedent we should be setting.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was a set-up for just that....

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by contachster

You stated that comparing the illegal immigrant to another type of criminal is apples and oranges so I asked why do you impose such a double standard?

Simple.

We have enough homegrown criminals so why allow additional ones in?

Face it: illegals have already broken a multitude of laws already so outside the threat of incarceration/deportation, what is stopping those losers from committing even more crimes here in the USA?

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Benicar

IF this story is true; and that’s a big IF. . . . . it’s unfortunate his parents have created his current predicament. I do find this extremely difficult to believe, given the fact that a birth certificate is required for many situations in life prior to the age of 23. I simply can’t believe he would not have realized he was not a citizen of this country.

If he is permitted to remain in this country, a legal precedent will be set for illegal aliens brought to this country as children. Consequently, we could create another magnet for illegal immigration -- just enter the country prior to age ___, and you will be permitted to remain in the country, and ultimately granted citizenship. This is definitely not a precedent we should be setting.

You smell a rat here as well I see..............

[andreabeth]

Originally Posted by evil leftist dogma

The seven year old does not have ties to the United States like this individual does. And ties to your native country do play a factor in admission on different visas to the US- an absence thereof in a case like this should be somewhat considerable

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The 23 year old's parents are also illegal aliens. The entire familia can be repatriated to Argentina. Since madre and padre lived there prior to sneaking into the US, they will be able to help their son adapt to his new life in his home country.

Since you are so opposed to sending illegal aliens who came here as children back to their home countries after they have lived in the US, are you equally opposed to uprooting a 7 year old and tearing him away from his friends and the only life he has ever known on order to sneak him into the US, a place where he does not know the language, etc. I have yet to hear any of you criticize parents who subject their children to that.

[evil leftist dogma]

Originally Posted by andreabeth

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The 23 year old's parents are also illegal aliens. The entire familia can be repatriated to Argentina. Since madre and padre lived there prior to sneaking into the US, they will be able to help their son adapt to his new life in his home country.

Since you are so opposed to sending illegal aliens who came here as children back to their home countries after they have lived in the US, are you equally opposed to uprooting a 7 year old and tearing him away from his friends and the only life he has ever known on order to sneak him into the US, a place where he does not know the language, etc. I have yet to hear any of you criticize parents who subject their children to that.

I just criticized his parents in several posts

If any of you knew anything about child psychology, you'd know the error in your argument. A 7 year old is a child who has undergone very little social development- a 3 year old even less so. The effect is far less traumatizing. Sure, he's 23 and should be able to suck it up alright if he has to move somewhere, but deporting him with absolutely no option is grossly ignorant. It would be beyond devastating to him, and it would be ignorant of the facts and a low point for the US gov.

[andreabeth]

Originally Posted by evil leftist dogma

I just criticized his parents in several posts

If any of you knew anything about child psychology, you'd know the error in your argument. A 7 year old is a child who has undergone very little social development- a 3 year old even less so. The effect is far less traumatizing. Sure, he's 23 and should be able to suck it up alright if he has to move somewhere, but deporting him with absolutely no option is grossly ignorant. It would be beyond devastating to him, and it would be ignorant of the facts and a low point for the US gov.

I just don't think he stands to gain anything from being alienated from the country he has known as his home.

Is is acceptable to alienate a Mexican or Honduran 10 year old from the only country he or she has known as their home in order to sneak them into the US?

[evil leftist dogma]

Originally Posted by andreabeth

Is is acceptable to alienate a Mexican or Honduran 10 year old from the only country he or she has known as their home in order to sneak them into the US?

Absolutely not. It's selfish. It's deplorable. As I have said before, countless times. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit the whole "FILTHY ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZER" mold, but really. I'm considering the country's best interest and the child's best interest here. This is quite possibly one of the worst cases to try and argue about for people who are so blindly opposed to illegal immigration.

[andreabeth]

Originally Posted by evil leftist dogma

Absolutely not. It's selfish. It's deplorable. As I have said before, countless times. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit the whole "FILTHY ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZER" mold, but really. I'm considering the country's best interest and the child's best interest here. This is quite possibly one of the worst cases to try and argue about for people who are so blindly opposed to illegal immigration.

If a 12 year old Mexican illegal alien child has been living in the US for 2 years, then you should have no problem with repatriating he and his parents to Mexico since that is where the child has spent the majority of his years and undoubtedly was separated from friends, neighbors, his school, the church he attended, etc. when he was uprooted and taken to a country where he does not know the language and is unfamiliar with the culture. I am sure that being taken away from all the familiar things in his life and brought to the US was very traumatic for him. And I doubt anyone consulted him prior to making the trip to El Norte. Who knows? Maybe he was very happy playing with the neighborhood kids, maybe he looked forward to the big family get togethers for holidays and he may have preferred life in a small village to the US. If he has only been here for a few years, or even if he has been here for a long time, there is no reason that child should not be returned to his homeland to experience the richness of his cultural heritage.