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Old 07-16-2009, 05:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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California Ballot Measure Targets Illegal Immigrants : NPR

This should pass easily in these economic times.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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Outside the Home Depot in Los Angeles' Pico Union neighborhood, a group of day laborers wait for construction and gardening jobs. Among them is 40-year-old Justo. He came to California from Guatemala 13 years ago.
The government is always accusing immigrants of draining money, he says, adding "they look to us as scapegoats." There's not much work these days for men like him. He scrapes by on a part-time job as a security guard downtown. Justo says he got hired using a phony Social Security card number.
"I pay taxes," Justo says. "I pay FICA, federal and Social Security."

Typical? his human rights exceed mine and any laws we must obey to keep the country stable.
I know most don't want his cheap shotty labor at the cost of jobs americans need.
I also know the getto's that command the highest forclosures and sheer blight are turning into ghost towns left for the gangs to trash the rest of the way. As the people of ca voted many times to rid ourselfs of these economically draining people, we will do everything to keep the money in the hands of americans regardless of politcal bs. I see this all around the usa too.proof is in many news articles
that contiune as above to lean to sympathy for what we no longer can or will pay for.
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Old 07-17-2009, 08:22 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If they correct the wording to match what other States have passed, it will pass (again) and stick this time. Look out Nevada, millions of free loaders heading your way.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If they correct the wording to match what other States have passed, it will pass (again) and stick this time. Look out Nevada, millions of free loaders heading your way.
Knowing Nevada: they will take a very dim view being invaded by a bunch of those insolent criminal losers from Mexico, etc.
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:24 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They will and are heading back here to Texas, by the 1000's a day. Seriously!!


HELP!!!!
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Old 07-18-2009, 12:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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They will and are heading back here to Texas, by the 1000's a day. Seriously!!


HELP!!!!
They have momentum, keep their feet moving and ya all will be allright

Texas is going to have to start reviewing measures other border States have already passed or your social service outlets and Hospitals are going to go under.
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Old 07-18-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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When George Bush was our Governor, rolled out the welcome mat.
Rick Perry is just as bad, but puts on an act for the press and photo op's.
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Old 07-18-2009, 08:38 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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It is still bad in TX. I am doing a lot of work on my house myself partly to save money and partly because I refuse to pay illegals to do it even though I am sore and covered head to toe in bruises and scratches. A couple of friends and I went to a nearby fast food restaurant for lunch yesterday and we were all left wondering what country we were in. It was one of those occasions where I felt at a disadvantage in my own country because I am not a native Spanish speaker.

Richardson (an old, inner ring suburb of Dallas) is in transition; it is revitalizing its older areas and young people like myself are buying in some of its older neighborhoods and doing a lot of renovations. I took Friday off work and worked on my house all day and spent a while hauling debris to the curb in the hot Texas sun. I was not the only person on that block doing so, but I was the only white girl doing so! Crews of Spanish-speaking laborers were toiling away up and down the street installing windows, tearing out bathrooms, remodeling kitchens, etc, and hauling the debris to the curb for bulk trash pickup. It makes me sad. I cannot assume that every single laborer on the block was illegal and probably some were not but I bet you most of them were. I had seen some of those same crews at the same fast food restaurant earlier in the day.

On the other hand I saved $500 by tearing out 3 layers of 50 year old wood in a former garage/current game room/soon to be garage again, and guaranteed that no illegal labor would be used on my property. I would rather do the work myself and I made good on my word and did so! I have even dropped by the property during the day to check up on my contractor because I do not have the know how to change out a gas hot water heater or an electrical service panel, nor would I attempt either job without proper training! Every time I have showed up, all of the laborers on site were speaking fluent, accentless English. The most that were ever on site at one time was four men, 2 white, 1 black, 1 Latino, all speaking perfect English. Good!
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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It is still bad in TX. I am doing a lot of work on my house myself partly to save money and partly because I refuse to pay illegals to do it even though I am sore and covered head to toe in bruises and scratches. A couple of friends and I went to a nearby fast food restaurant for lunch yesterday and we were all left wondering what country we were in. It was one of those occasions where I felt at a disadvantage in my own country because I am not a native Spanish speaker.

Richardson (an old, inner ring suburb of Dallas) is in transition; it is revitalizing its older areas and young people like myself are buying in some of its older neighborhoods and doing a lot of renovations. I took Friday off work and worked on my house all day and spent a while hauling debris to the curb in the hot Texas sun. I was not the only person on that block doing so, but I was the only white girl doing so! Crews of Spanish-speaking laborers were toiling away up and down the street installing windows, tearing out bathrooms, remodeling kitchens, etc, and hauling the debris to the curb for bulk trash pickup. It makes me sad. I cannot assume that every single laborer on the block was illegal and probably some were not but I bet you most of them were. I had seen some of those same crews at the same fast food restaurant earlier in the day.

On the other hand I saved $500 by tearing out 3 layers of 50 year old wood in a former garage/current game room/soon to be garage again, and guaranteed that no illegal labor would be used on my property. I would rather do the work myself and I made good on my word and did so! I have even dropped by the property during the day to check up on my contractor because I do not have the know how to change out a gas hot water heater or an electrical service panel, nor would I attempt either job without proper training! Every time I have showed up, all of the laborers on site were speaking fluent, accentless English. The most that were ever on site at one time was four men, 2 white, 1 black, 1 Latino, all speaking perfect English. Good!
If I were you I'd be tempted to "drop a dime" to the City if any of that work your neighbors are having done looks like it was done by Illegals with no permit.
It's no big deal if legal, it will be a giant headache for them if not.
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Old 07-20-2009, 03:03 PM
 
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It is still bad in TX. I am doing a lot of work on my house myself partly to save money and partly because I refuse to pay illegals to do it even though I am sore and covered head to toe in bruises and scratches. A couple of friends and I went to a nearby fast food restaurant for lunch yesterday and we were all left wondering what country we were in. It was one of those occasions where I felt at a disadvantage in my own country because I am not a native Spanish speaker.

Richardson (an old, inner ring suburb of Dallas) is in transition; it is revitalizing its older areas and young people like myself are buying in some of its older neighborhoods and doing a lot of renovations. I took Friday off work and worked on my house all day and spent a while hauling debris to the curb in the hot Texas sun. I was not the only person on that block doing so, but I was the only white girl doing so! Crews of Spanish-speaking laborers were toiling away up and down the street installing windows, tearing out bathrooms, remodeling kitchens, etc, and hauling the debris to the curb for bulk trash pickup. It makes me sad. I cannot assume that every single laborer on the block was illegal and probably some were not but I bet you most of them were. I had seen some of those same crews at the same fast food restaurant earlier in the day.

On the other hand I saved $500 by tearing out 3 layers of 50 year old wood in a former garage/current game room/soon to be garage again, and guaranteed that no illegal labor would be used on my property. I would rather do the work myself and I made good on my word and did so! I have even dropped by the property during the day to check up on my contractor because I do not have the know how to change out a gas hot water heater or an electrical service panel, nor would I attempt either job without proper training! Every time I have showed up, all of the laborers on site were speaking fluent, accentless English. The most that were ever on site at one time was four men, 2 white, 1 black, 1 Latino, all speaking perfect English. Good!
What if a Latino who was born in the USA started to speak Spanish on your property? Would you ask him to leave? And how do you know the Latino speaking English on your property was not an illegal immigrant? Many come here as toddlers illegally and grow up to speak perfect English. So your post has left me confused, are you anti-illegal immigrant, or against anyone who does not speak English, or people who are bi-lingual, or is it all of the aforementioned?
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