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Old 07-22-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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What puzzles me is why this should please you so.
When did I ever say that makes me happy. All I was doing was describing a situation that is occuring. Just like if I drove past a shooting range and then commented on studies which claim that people with an obsession with guns have problems expressing their emotions due to stunted emotional growth and repressed childhood anger. I would not be saying that I do or do not agree with that. I would just be pointing out that there are angry and emotionally immature people that shoot guns at a little red dot posted on a wall. Do you follow that?

 
Old 07-22-2009, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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When did I ever say that makes me happy. All I was doing was describing a situation that is occuring. Just like if I drove past a shooting range and then commented on studies which claim that people with an obsession with guns have problems expressing their emotions due to stunted emotional growth and repressed childhood anger. I would not be saying that I do or do not agree with that. I would just be pointing out that there are angry and emotionally immature people that shoot guns at a little red dot posted on a wall. Do you follow that?
Perhaps.

Although; try to use that excuse in Switzerland where is is supposedly mandatory for every household to have a firearm.
 
Old 07-22-2009, 10:26 AM
 
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Perhaps.

Although; try to use that excuse in Switzerland where is is supposedly mandatory for every household to have a firearm.
I've never heard of that. If it is true it would be different because some would just be following the law by keeping a firearm. A little different than a person frothing at the mouth while polishing their AK-47 with an oil-cloth 50 times a day.

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Old 07-22-2009, 10:52 AM
 
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A Sobering Wake-up Call: Are we ready for the fight? | DREAM Act Portal

Reading between the lines: it sounds to me that the DREAMie losers are running a tad scared these days
it is ironic that organized labor is joining with the illegal immigrants to see that they get citizenship. it used to be that organized labor protected american jobs. i guess money talks!

Linda Chavez-Thompson is executive vice-president of the AFL-CIO, the nation’s largest labor organization. When she speaks on issues affecting the federation’s 54 affiliated unions, people listen. At a February 28, 2006 press briefing, Ms. Chavez-Thompson had this to say about pending immigration-reform legislation: "We propose that if employers can demonstrate a real need for outside workers, these workers should be allowed into our country with the same rights and labor protections of any U.S. citizen".

The words echoed those of her boss, President John Sweeney, who had remarked a few years earlier:
"The struggle of immigrant workers is our struggle. We believe, as Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. believed, that injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere".

i say that the unions don't represent working americans anymore.

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Old 07-22-2009, 07:20 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I've never heard of that. If it is true it would be different because some would just be following the law by keeping a firearm.
It's true. All Swiss males must serve in their armed forces and upon discharge it is mandatory for them to be a part of the reserves or militia. They are also required to keep their service weapon in their home in good repair and ready for use.

Speaking of which, I think the most disturbing portion of the OPs linked article was this:

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The President has delegated the Executive Branch’s heavy lifting to his very capable Director of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano...
Is this not the same Director who wrote, in so many words, that American war veterans could be a risk to the homeland because right-wing extremists could enlist them to terrorize the United States?

Being one of those very well trained experienced and obviously dangerous people I take offense at being outed like that.
 
Old 07-22-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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The standard Pro-Illegal question here would be...how do you know they are illegal? Can you telll by looking at them?
The situation I am refering to is a little different; it usually unfolds like this:

JUDGE: Mr. Jose So & So, you have 3 prior convictions for driving without
a license, why don't you take the test and get one?

JOSE: I cant your honor because I do not have a social security number.

JUDGE: I see; $250 fine and $100 court costs. Next Case.

One can reasonably suppose that a thirty-something year old Mexican male with no drivers license and no SS# is here illegally. A little different than assuming so if the only thing you know about him is that he works for a landscaper.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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The situation I am refering to is a little different; it usually unfolds like this:

JUDGE: Mr. Jose So & So, you have 3 prior convictions for driving without
a license, why don't you take the test and get one?

JOSE: I cant your honor because I do not have a social security number.

JUDGE: I see; $250 fine and $100 court costs. Next Case.

One can reasonably suppose that a thirty-something year old Mexican male with no drivers license and no SS# is here illegally. A little different than assuming so if the only thing you know about him is that he works for a landscaper.

But that is not the business of the court in question, the court is there just to address his traffic ticket. If it was an immigration court the conversation would be a little different.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 08:47 PM
 
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But that is not the business of the court in question, the court is there just to address his traffic ticket. If it was an immigration court the conversation would be a little different.
I know that sir. My response was to the poster who asked me why did I assume the guy was an illegal immigrant. So I ran down the situation for him to show him that it was not a far stretch to figure out his immigration status due to the facts at hand; so even though his case had nothing to do with immigration status it just happened that I figured out he was an illegal immigrant, along with others.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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I know that sir. My response was to the poster who asked me why did I assume the guy was an illegal immigrant. So I ran down the situation for him to show him that it was not a far stretch to figure out his immigration status due to the facts at hand.
I am sorry, I was to quick to respond and had understood that by your post you were suggesting that the court should have done something about it.

Having an adult admit that they do not have a ssn, in my opinion, is a valid reason to doubt his legality as you pointed out.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 08:54 PM
 
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A Sobering Wake-up Call: Are we ready for the fight? | DREAM Act Portal

Reading between the lines: it sounds to me that the DREAMie losers are running a tad scared these days



I don't know why, the nation is here for the picking . Has ben every since the Reagan term gave a couple million amnesty .

Their is no loyalty, employers hire them, everyone else stays home and watches the game or shops while they are being invaded .

Look who they just elected and the last one was no better . Both amnesty loving socialist,imo. Or worse
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