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Old 07-29-2009, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Where laws can be ignored due to political correctness
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"The life that I'm living in Italy is very poor. I don't have documents. In Europe, if you don't have documents, you are nothing - you are an empty vessel."
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Under the legislation, illegal immigrants are liable to pay a fine of 10,000 euros (8,700; $14,200) and can now be detained by the authorities for up to six months.

In addition, people who knowingly house undocumented migrants can now face up to three years in prison.
BBC NEWS | Europe | Italy's immigrants despair at new laws

I give Italy two thumbs up!

Now, if only most of our own politicians would have the backbones to stand up and firmly against the current valueless, filthy, despicable, freeloading, scum-of-the-earth, illegal alien criminals who wilfully violate our laws for their own pathetic agendas in our own country.

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Old 07-29-2009, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Sucks to be an illegal alien
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Italians rescued me from the sea, if they didn't want me they shouldn't have rescued me....

They should have forced you to turn around and go back nimrod.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Default Italy's Aging Population

Italy has one of the highest rates of an aging population in the world. Japan comes in #1.

I really don't see how any of this can be circumvented unless they do something to increase their fertility rate. France has done it, increased their native fertility rate, albeit at a high cost, and Italy needs to follow suit.

Otherwise, is there really any other choices?
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:28 PM
 
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Italy has one of the highest rates of an aging population in the world. Japan comes in #1.

I really don't see how any of this can be circumvented unless they do something to increase their fertility rate. France has done it, increased their native fertility rate, albeit at a high cost, and Italy needs to follow suit.

Otherwise, is there really any other choices?
What does all of that have to do with illegal immigration?

I'm certain that if Italy wanted more people it would likely seek to increase the birthrate and/or legal immigration.

I'm also certain that the majority of countries wouldn't want to accept third-world and low-skilled illegals who are looking for countries to sneak into.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Default Taking Care of the Elderly?

Perhaps the potential Legal Immigrants aren't interested in taking jobs related to tending to the elderly, like home care and emptying bed pans in a nursing home.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Texas
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If only the US could get on board.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:51 PM
 
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Perhaps the potential Legal Immigrants aren't interested in taking jobs related to tending to the elderly, like home care and emptying bed pans in a nursing home.
I'm undeniably certain that Italian government could find and bring in legal immigrants willing to do the work.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Default I Work in a Long-term Care facility

I've done home care for the elderly and I've worked in a long-term care facility for years now. And what kind of pay are we talking about with this line of work? Barely enough to live on.

So, you actually think they would pay more for this kind of work in Italy or other parts of Europe to attract a sufficient number of legal workers to do the work?

I don't know the pay scale over there for this line of work, perhaps it's higher than here in the U.S., and if it is, I'll apply as a legal immigrant to Italy to do this kind of work over there.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:02 PM
 
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I've done home care for the elderly and I've worked in a long-term care facility for years now. And what kind of pay are we talking about with this line of work? Barely enough to live on.

So, you actually think they would pay more for this kind of work in Italy or other parts of Europe to attract a sufficient number of legal workers to do the work?

I don't know the pay scale over there for this line of work, perhaps it's higher than here in the U.S., and if it is, I'll apply as a legal immigrant to Italy to do this kind of work over there.
I'd be surprised if Italy hasn't considered finding and bringing in poor and low-income Eastern and Central Europeans, many of whom are willing to do any kind of work.
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