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Old 07-29-2009, 09:16 PM
 
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Okay, I would like your honest opinion, without getting too emotional...in other words, serious responders please.

A mural that is set to be finished the begining of August has been vandalized with the words "racist" and "lies". The mural is depicting "A Nation of Immigrants" and "No human is illegal". The manager putting this project on is from the organization of "Yollocalli Arts Reach" that is also part of the National Museum of Mexican Art.

Certainly, I dont agree with the vandalism part, nor the racial slurs.

However, the mural was depicting "A Nation of Immigrants". This statement is correct and I have no objection to it, if it had all races included...Blacks, Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. I have not seen the mural but it seems to me that with the addition of "No human is illegal", the mural is exclusive for Mexican-Americans.

How do you feel about it?

Immigration mural vandalized by racist slurs - Chicago Breaking News (http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/07/immigration-mural-vandalized-by-racist-slurs.html - broken link)
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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The vandal(s) should be punished for the crime.

I don't agree with the artists' message of open borders but I respect their right to free speech and property ownership.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:23 PM
 
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Private property is private property. Vandalism of someone else's property isn't the way to go about it.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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No, it is here because the people involved in the mural are sending the message that they are in support of legalizing illegal immigrants, which is also my next point.

In a tough social battle between antis and pros, I dont think it is a good idea to post something like this. I would not like it if the antis would do a mural in support of deportation, neither should we. It would only make matters worse.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:27 PM
 
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Remember guys that the question was not about whether it is okay to vandalize or write racial slurs. I think we can all agree to that. The question was regarding the image it is portraying...the message.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:28 PM
 
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In a tough social battle between antis and pros, I dont think it is a good idea to post something like this. I would not like it if the antis would do a mural in support of deportation, neither should we. It would only make matters worse.
A mural supporting deportation of illegals probably wouldn't go well with the pro-illegals and ethnocentricists but as long as the artist displays it on private property then there shouldn't be anything wrong.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:29 PM
 
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The first amendment of the constitution guaruntees the freedom of speech and the right of the people to peacfully assemble and protest. So the artists have a right to paint their mural and anyone who does not like it can stand in front of it and protest it's existence. Everybody wins. That is why I love this country.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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Well I'm not an immigrant so a mural like that is certainly excluding me and my fellow non-immigrants. Over 80% of people in the USA are not immigrants.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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The first amendment of the constitution guaruntees the freedom of speech and the right of the people to peacfully assemble and protest. So the artists have a right to paint their mural and anyone who does not like it can stand in front of it and protest it's existence. Everybody wins. That is why I love this country.
By law you are correct but would it be morally right?
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:39 PM
 
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Well I'm not an immigrant so a mural like that is certainly excluding me and my fellow non-immigrants. Over 80% of people in the USA are not immigrants.
I have to disagree with you. Everyone is an immigrant unless you are 100% Native American. 80%? I dont know what to think of that number or how you came up with that number. There were plenty of immigrants that came in the 1920's and later too. There are plenty of immigrants that came in the 1960's and then there is the most recent wave of immigrants (legal and illegal).
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