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Old 02-05-2010, 01:58 PM
 
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You dont want them in jail costing you money, you dont want them deported to mexico...
Correct. I don't want them in jail; I don't want them deported. I want them not to have come here in the first place; I want the group who will arrive here in 2011, or 2015, not to come here...I want them to stay home. You're a very perceptive reader.

 
Old 02-05-2010, 02:04 PM
 
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Correct. I don't want them in jail; I don't want them deported. I want them not to have come here in the first place; I want the group who will arrive here in 2011, or 2015, not to come here...I want them to stay home. You're a very perceptive reader.
What would you propose? Since they already are here and we don't have a time machine nor do we live in a fantasy land.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Aren’t you advocating legalization for illegal aliens? If so, you are also condoning their criminal behavior -- ID theft, fraud, etc. Similar behavior when perpetrated by U.S. citizens results in arrest, prosecution, and incarceration. Why should illegal aliens be absolved?
I never said I was, and even if I was that doesn't automatically assume that I condone ID theft and fraud. That makes about as much sense as saying that anyone who advocates the right to bear arms means they also condone gun-related murders and assaults with a firearm.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Poor man. A horrible way to die. My first thought is that he must have walked through Mexico or was in Mexico. Why don't they help these people and send them back home? We always get the blame, but there was this other country he had to travel through and the Mexicans coming? Again, where is the help from the Mexican side of the fence? They need to get their country together.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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Poor man. A horrible way to die. My first thought is that he must have walked through Mexico or was in Mexico. Why don't they help these people and send them back home? We always get the blame, but there was this other country he had to travel through and the Mexicans coming? Again, where is the help from the Mexican side of the fence? They need to get their country together.
Mexico will never get its act together as long as our government doesn't secure our borders and take away any incentives for illegals to come or remain here such as jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship. We have become the sponge for their poor. Anyone making excuses for or advocating they remain in our country is aiding and abetting the corruption in both Mexico's and our government which have created this mess.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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Mexico will never get its act together as long as our government doesn't secure our borders and take away any incentives for illegals to come or remain here such as jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship. We have become their sponge for their poor.
That's really not quite the case. Of course you want it to be, it's not.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Mexico will never get its act together as long as our government doesn't secure our borders and take away any incentives for illegals to come or remain here such as jobs, benefits and birthright citizenship. We have become their sponge for their poor.
I don't necessarily agree with that....there are plenty of poor people living in Mexico who have no intention of crossing. A combination of being pro-active and eliminating corruption could lift Mexico out of the 3rd world...eventually.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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I don't necessarily agree with that....there are plenty of poor people living in Mexico who have no intention of crossing. A combination of being pro-active and eliminating corruption could lift Mexico out of the 3rd world...eventually.
I believe someone posted a poll in here on that. When Mexicans in Mexico were asked if they wanted to come to the U.S. or would try, 60% said yes and that doesn't even count the millions that are already here illegally. Our government isn't going to try to change the corruption in Mexico because they are in cahoots with them for the cheap labor to continue to flow into our country.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: ...at a 3AM epiphany
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I don't necessarily agree with that....there are plenty of poor people living in Mexico who have no intention of crossing. A combination of being pro-active and eliminating corruption could lift Mexico out of the 3rd world...eventually.
No offense but greed has been around since the beginning of time and doubt it will ever be eradicated. Illegals need to go and fight for what they want, in their own country.
 
Old 02-05-2010, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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I don't necessarily agree with that....there are plenty of poor people living in Mexico who have no intention of crossing. A combination of being pro-active and eliminating corruption could lift Mexico out of the 3rd world...eventually.
Needless to say: Mexico has to step up and do the work. Poverty is no excuse being that Mx is in the top 10th Percentile of nations in GDP----------it has over twice the per capita income of China.
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