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Old 08-11-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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Is it good that farmers are moving their businesses out of the U.S. to Mexico?

Reuters AlertNet - RPT-US farmers short on migrant workers move to Mexico
"Instead, Cox's farm is just south of the border in Mexico where he can hire workers at a tenth of the cost"

So he is hiring Mexican workers in Mexico for less than he can hire them for here..sounds fair to me...when he runs out of workers I know where he can find more....any Home Depot parking lot..
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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GOOD JOBS
Still, no matter how small Mexican families get, some workers will still cross the border to seek higher U.S. salaries. Mexico's minimum wage is less than $4 a day compared to the U.S federal minimum wage of $6.55 an hour.
“The demographic change will mean less pressure on people to leave but they're still going to need good jobs in Mexico,” said Philip Martin, a professor specializing in immigration, farm labor and economic development at the University of California, Davis.
Any decline in immigration from Mexico will be slow because leaving for America is so customary in towns like Jalpa that many teenagers hardly look for work before shipping out.
Nearly everyone has kin in the United States, making it easier to settle and find a job. Hundreds of thousands could still cross the border every year for years to come, demographers say.
Anselmo Munoz, 50, who runs a vegetable stall in Jalpa's market, says he looks after the homes of his 10 brothers and sisters who live in the United States.
His uncle is a “coyote,” or migrant smuggler. Of his three kids, one has settled in town, and two are still in school.
“I hope they stay,” he said.
Mexico's shrinking families could cut flow to U.S.
Smells like chain amnesty to me.
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:08 PM
 
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Is it good that farmers are moving their businesses out of the U.S. to Mexico?

Reuters AlertNet - RPT-US farmers short on migrant workers move to Mexico
No, it is very, very bad.

Mexican farmers have been devastated by NAFTA. Whole villages have died out (and people wonder why we have so many illegal immigrants). They simply cannot compete with subsidized agribusiness in the U.S. Having now destroyed Mexico's small farming communities, we are going to move in and take them over? And continue to reap subsidies financed by the American taxpayer, as well? In my book, that's call theft.

American farms should stay in America. And NAFTA should be repealed.
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Old 08-11-2009, 03:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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No, it is very, very bad.

Mexican farmers have been devastated by NAFTA. Whole villages have died out (and people wonder why we have so many illegal immigrants). They simply cannot compete with subsidized agribusiness in the U.S. Having now destroyed Mexico's small farming communities, we are going to move in and take them over? And continue to reap subsidies financed by the American taxpayer, as well? In my book, that's call theft.

American farms should stay in America. And NAFTA should be repealed.
Correction, Legal American farms with LEGAL workers should stay in the US. I agree about NAFTA.
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Old 08-11-2009, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Nassau, Long Island, NY
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Is it good that farmers are moving their businesses out of the U.S. to Mexico?

Reuters AlertNet - RPT-US farmers short on migrant workers move to Mexico
Good for them! Let's see what happens when:

Corrupt Mexican government officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican military officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican police officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Mexican gangbangers are at their door for protection money.

Mexican drug traffickers are at their door demanding that they grow certain extra "crops" and demanding use of their land.

Let's see how that cheap labor works out ...
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:19 PM
 
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Moving a farming operation to another country....or even to the other side of the road...may be a 'snap' if you're growing carrots or bell peppers....but not so easy if you have 100 acres of orange trees or a 10-year old vineyard. These things don't 'move' easily.

Actually, there are a number of large growers in California who also have large operations going on in Mexico as well.

"Moving" a farming operation may work for an indivdual, but valuable crop land will STILL be valuable as crop land, and it's unlikely to be abandoned, IMO.
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Old 08-11-2009, 05:37 PM
 
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"Moving" a farming operation may work for an indivdual, but valuable crop land will STILL be valuable as crop land, and it's unlikely to be abandoned, IMO.
The land won't be so valuable if the farmer can't turn a profit because he has to compete with Mexican imports grown with cheaper labor. Those oranges will rot in the orchard if prices are too low to pay the laborers to pick them.
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Old 08-11-2009, 06:06 PM
 
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They aren't the only ones... utility companies are moving their power plants into Mexico with the taxpayers PAYING to transmit energy from Mexico to the US.. the companies said they would use "green energy" and got taxpayers to pay for the electrical lines... and get this, most of the energy will NOT be "green energy"... nice of them to steal billions from taxpayers and profit off of it... the politicians are NOT your friend... don't EVER trust them...
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Old 08-11-2009, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Good for them! Let's see what happens when:

Corrupt Mexican government officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican military officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican police officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Mexican gangbangers are at their door for protection money.

Mexican drug traffickers are at their door demanding that they grow certain extra "crops" and demanding use of their land.

Let's see how that cheap labor works out ...
And the corruption SoB is getting worse I bet.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:10 AM
 
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Good for them! Let's see what happens when:

Corrupt Mexican government officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican military officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Corrupt Mexican police officials are at their door for handouts and bribes.

Mexican gangbangers are at their door for protection money.

Mexican drug traffickers are at their door demanding that they grow certain extra "crops" and demanding use of their land.

Let's see how that cheap labor works out ...
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. However, it would not look pretty on this side of the border, at least it has not in the past when Hearshey's Co left or Green Giant, etc. Many US citizens complained about jobs being lost. We live in a dual dependency with Mexico. We depend on them and they depend on us.
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