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Old 09-03-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego North County
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With fewer jobs for Americans these days, are there fewer jobs that Americans won't do? The answer will influence whether Congress decides to grant amnesty to some 11 million illegal immigrants in the US, perhaps by next year.

Most illegal workers in the US are Mexicans who mow lawns, clean motel sheets, butcher hogs, pick strawberries, and otherwise toil away at tasks that, as George W. Bush once said, "Americans won't do." And they often are paid less than the minimum wage.

A widely held assumption in Washington's debate about immigration is that native-born Americans avoid menial and dirty work. Laid-off autoworkers wouldn't really wash dishes at a Denny's or milk cows on a dairy farm, would they? Such a notion has long helped justify a flow of foreign workers into the US – or possibly an amnesty for those hiding from the law.

With people desperate for income, downward mobility may be on the way up. News reports show long lines of applicants for a janitor's job or for work at a factory after a federal raid clears out the illegal workers.
'Jobs that Americans won't do' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090901/cm_csm/ejobs - broken link)

 
Old 09-03-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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A shamnesty would mean that many more new "Americans" jockeying for those jobs. That is a very, very bad idea.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 07:54 AM
 
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It the differences that apply. American citizens have taxes withheld, and other cultural aspects that cause costs to be higher (e.g., live as nuclear families, or alone, etc.) Level the playing field and I bet this would not be occurring.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 08:03 AM
 
Location: EPWV
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I think some Americans would gladly trade their stressful jobs for something in the line of washing dishes at Denny's or picking up trash at the malls, etc as may many employees that have been laid off. That's true, if taxes weren't taken out, it would sweeten the pot even more so.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Some Beach... Somewhere...
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It the differences that apply. American citizens have taxes withheld, and other cultural aspects that cause costs to be higher (e.g., live as nuclear families, or alone, etc.) Level the playing field and I bet this would not be occurring.
Agree but how? I don't want all my relatives coming to live with me. And I like my house, so moving my family into a relative's townhouse basement and parking on the lawn doesn't seem like a good idea either. How about we stop teaching in our school the nonsense that multiculturalism is great and that other cultures are just as valid as ours within the confines of the US borders?

I've called the police and county zoning folks many times about overcrowding in our neighborhood.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 09:01 AM
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Location: Denver
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From I have read over the past couple of years in this economic slump, Americans are more willing to be homeless or live in a RV, than do the menial work that illegals do.

Here is a recent thread: OC career executive is now homeless...

In San Francisco, the homeless Americans have flooded the place, speaking fine English when asking for change. Yet you drive out 40 miles to the farming zone, nothing but Mexicans working in the fields. Nothing but Mexicans working in restaurants, nothing but Mexicans working the same menial jobs. And guess what? I still don't see any homeless Mexicans.

Nothing has changed from I can see and as long as those unemployment checks keep coming in, why would it? Jobless Americans are making more money on unemployment than they would flipping burgers. Cut the life support and maybe we will see change.
 
Old 09-03-2009, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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From I have read over the past couple of years in this economic slump, Americans are more willing to be homeless or live in a RV, than do the menial work that illegals do.

Here is a recent thread: OC career executive is now homeless...

In San Francisco, the homeless Americans have flooded the place, speaking fine English when asking for change. Yet you drive out 40 miles to the farming zone, nothing but Mexicans working in the fields. Nothing but Mexicans working in restaurants, nothing but Mexicans working the same menial jobs. And guess what? I still don't see any homeless Mexicans.

Nothing has changed from I can see and as long as those unemployment checks keep coming in, why would it? Jobless Americans are making more money on unemployment than they would flipping burgers. Cut the life support and maybe we will see change.
Well; here in Arizona the mostly Latino illegal aliens are disappearing as we speak since life has become quite miserable for those criminals as we speak
 
Old 09-03-2009, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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'Jobs that Americans won't do' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090901/cm_csm/ejobs - broken link)
Where I live, on the border, we have very few illegals, except those going on through. Probably because Border Patrol is the 2nd largest employer in the county. If you go to the car wash it is staffed entirely by local teenagers, they do a lousy job and take waay to long to do it, but it feels good anyway.
Just like not shopping at Slave Mart, I'll go out of my way to get a lousy car wash for the good of the country
 
Old 09-03-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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From I have read over the past couple of years in this economic slump, Americans are more willing to be homeless or live in a RV, than do the menial work that illegals do.

Here is a recent thread: OC career executive is now homeless...

In San Francisco, the homeless Americans have flooded the place, speaking fine English when asking for change. Yet you drive out 40 miles to the farming zone, nothing but Mexicans working in the fields. Nothing but Mexicans working in restaurants, nothing but Mexicans working the same menial jobs. And guess what? I still don't see any homeless Mexicans.

Nothing has changed from I can see and as long as those unemployment checks keep coming in, why would it? Jobless Americans are making more money on unemployment than they would flipping burgers. Cut the life support and maybe we will see change.
"In San Francisco Homeless Americans have flooded the place"

Where? If anything the number of homeless in San Francissco has declined
 
Old 09-03-2009, 11:09 AM
 
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With the current economy, it seems like there's a lot of jobs that Americans wouldn't do. Times have changed, and I don't think it's for the better. I take no pleasure in the fact that many Americans are in a desperate situation as to have to take lower jobs than they were before. Regardless of how that affects illegals.
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