The Dark Side of Diversity (March, citizenship, children, country)

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by andreabeth

Dude! I've got to agree with you here. Have you seen the list of immunizations the CDC recommends prior to travelling to Mexico? What's the latest on the hemorrhagic dengue fever anyhow?

MD Travel Health - Mexico - vaccinations, diarrhea, malaria, safety, and other medical advice

Yes, we’re dropping like flies down here—oh, sorry, like cockroaches.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by happyappy

Maybe the FBI does know and feels the need to withhold confirmation. I think it's highly unlikely that terrorists have NOT crossed the border many times in the past and are doing it now. It's a big border.

FBI: Iraqis Being Smuggled Across the Rio Grande
Share July 17, 2007 3:11 PM

Brian Ross Reports:

The FBI is investigating an alleged human smuggling operation based in Chaparral, N.M., that agents say is bringing "Iraqis and other Middle Eastern" individuals across the Rio Grande from Mexico.

An FBI intelligence report distributed by the Washington, D.C. Joint Terrorism Task Force, obtained by the Blotter on ABCNews.com, says the illegal ring has been bringing Iraqis across the border illegally for more than a year.

Border Patrol officials in the area said they were unaware of the specifics of the FBI's report, and federal prosecutors in New Mexico told ABCNews.com they had no current cases involving the illegal smuggling of Iraqis.

The FBI report, issued last week, says the smuggling organization "used to smuggle Mexicans, but decided to smuggle Iraqi or other Middle Eastern individuals because it was more lucrative." Each individual would be charged a fee of $20,000 to $25,000, according to the report.

The people to be smuggled would "gather at a house on the Mexican side of the border" and then cross the Rio Grande into the U.S., the report says.

"Unidentified individuals would then transport them to train stations in El Paso, Texas or Belen, New Mexico," according to the FBI document.

More:

The Blotter: FBI: Iraqis Being Smuggled Across the Rio Grande

You reckon these folks are just coming here to do the jobs "Americans won't do?"

[MOHIllbillyWoman]

But, MexicanGuy says that it is not the faulot of the illegal. It is all the fault of America and Mexicans or other illegals are never at fault. They are perfect you know and that would be why such a high percentage of them are in our jails.

[macmeal]

Originally Posted by JD.

I didn't make the news, I just
Either way, if a Mexican can somehow wonder across the border I don't think terrorists would find it impossible. Wether the terrorists are crossing the border this year, last year, or next year, it will eventually happen. With or without the FBI knowing.

In regards to Middle Eastern terrorists arriving on "foot", would I sound like a hopeless foot-in-mouth Archie Bunker, if I made the following statement?--

"If it all them there illegal Mexicans would just STOP walking across that border, we could build a fence and close it down tight in NO time...case closed!!! Now GET ME A BEER !"....

What that "Archie"-type statement means, is that the "terrorist" problem is hopelessly entangled with the "illegal entry" problem , which in itself is hopelessly entangled in the racist-bigot overtones of the entire discussion. Nothing here is simple....Sometimes the bumbling "Archie" DID inadvertently come up with a "pearl of wisdom" among all his outrageous views of the world....

[macmeal]

Originally Posted by Kele

FBI: Iraqis Being Smuggled Across the Rio Grande
Share July 17, 2007 3:11 PM

You reckon these folks are just coming here to do the jobs "Americans won't do?"

Kele, be honest---you know that it's extremely hard to get the average American youngster interested in a career as a suicide bomber. THe benefits just do not make up for the risks, and most Americans wouldn't take the job. If you want suicide bombers, you have no CHOICE but to look elswhere to recruit them....

[Kele]

Originally Posted by macmeal

Kele, be honest---you know that it's extremely hard to get the average American youngster interested in a career as a suicide bomber. THe benefits just do not make up for the risks, and most Americans wouldn't take the job. If you want suicide bombers, you have no CHOICE but to look elswhere to recruit them....

I hear that the retirement plan leaves much to be desired as well.....

[happyappy]

Originally Posted by Kele

I hear that the retirement plan leaves much to be desired as well.....

What, no golden parachute?!

[MexicanGuy]

Originally Posted by MOHIllbillyWoman

But, MexicanGuy says that it is not the faulot of the illegal. It is all the fault of America and Mexicans or other illegals are never at fault. They are perfect you know and that would be why such a high percentage of them are in our jails.

Incorrect, and even slanderous. I have repeatedly stated that, in my opinion, illegal immigrants and those who hire them—as well as anyone who knowingly purchases illegal labor-derived products or services—are accountable for contributing to this problem; nonetheless, I emphasize that, in my opinion, the ultimate accountability for the creation of this problem lies with the U.S. government and special interest groups, both Mexican and American.

[happyappy]

Originally Posted by MexicanGuy

Incorrect, and even slanderous. I have repeatedly stated that, in my opinion, illegal immigrants and those who hire them—as well as anyone who knowingly purchases illegal labor-derived products or services—are accountable for contributing to this problem; nonetheless, I emphasize that, in my opinion, the ultimate accountability for the creation of this problem lies with the U.S. government and special interest groups, both Mexican and American.

Have a nice day, and don't drink and write

Yep. VERY succinctly stated. The absolute crux of the problem. And I am still amazed at how often our significant problems in America can be laid at the feet of our elected representatives. And I am ever more amazed almost on a daily basis at how little control our citizenry seems to have over the government that is supposed to be submissive to the will of the people. What a mess.

But the border needs to be closed—NOW.

How about Mexico? Any hope of the people effecting major change in government? Is Mexico facing the same Gordian knot formed by government/mega-corps as we are faced with in America? Americans in general don’t seem to have given up hope but are waking up to the magnitude of the various problems regarding immigration. How about Mexicans? Lost hope? Gaining confidence? New plans emerging? Maybe you’ve covered some of these questions in other threads, but I hope you’ll take pity on me for not throwing myself into trying to track down the information through the huge number of threads of discussion in this forum.

[MOHIllbillyWoman]

Originally Posted by happyappy

How about Mexico? Any hope of the people effecting major change in government? Is Mexico facing the same Gordian knot formed by government/mega-corps as we are faced with in America? Americans in general don’t seem to have given up hope but are waking up to the magnitude of the various problems regarding immigration. How about Mexicans? Lost hope? Gaining confidence? New plans emerging? Maybe you’ve covered some of these questions in other threads, but I hope you’ll take pity on me for not throwing myself into trying to track down the information through the huge number of threads of discussion in this forum.

There is no chance of Mexico's government changing. It would be like the people of our country getting smart and not voting for the lesser of two evils. Never happen and they continue to be the corrupt country that they, as ours will also continue on the road to being just another Mexico.