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Does it really matter? Aside from stabilizing illegals injured/sick here in the USA prior to their deportation----------they certainly do not deserve medical care on my dime.
If that is what is being debated, YES, it matters! Lets be a good sport, if you will. Thanks
"Since July 2008, when Los Angeles County began implementing tougher federal verification rules, Rincon and his colleagues have gone back to check the documents of more than 100,000 recipients of Medi-Cal, the public healthcare program for low-income residents.
The county has received nearly $28 million in state and federal funds to cover the cost of the program and posted 81 people in 27 social service department offices to check documents, Walker said.
So far, they have not found one illegal immigrant who posed as a legal resident to get benefits, according to Deborah Walker, the county's Medi-Cal program director. Fewer than 1% of applicants between July 2008 and February 2009 lacked the proper documents, and many of those applicants eventually produced them, she said."
I guess you are right. Thanks for pointing that out!
Consider the source! You have been confronted with overwhelming evidence that some illegals do come here specifically for healthcare. Cling to your battered raft all you like.
Consider the source! You have been confronted with overwhelming evidence that some illegals do come here specifically for healthcare. Cling to your battered raft all you like.
And yet again, you fail to read the entire thread. If you read from the beginning. I mention that YES, there are some that do come for the healthcare but that I did not think many do and that the MAJORITY come for work opportunities. The challenge here is to provide evidence that the MAJORITY actually come for free healthcare and cross the border with a pre-existing condition. Keep ranting all you want, you are deviating from the real issue.
I guess you are right. Thanks for pointing that out!
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an article from the LA Times discussing the new policies in place to verify the legal status of those seeking government provided medical assistance.
it focuses on LA county, but considers other states audited. suprisingly, very few cases of illegals trying to get help exist.
Verification of illegal immigrants is scrutinized amid healthcare debate -- latimes.com
"Since July 2008, when Los Angeles County began implementing tougher federal verification rules, Rincon and his colleagues have gone back to check the documents of more than 100,000 recipients of Medi-Cal, the public healthcare program for low-income residents.
The county has received nearly $28 million in state and federal funds to cover the cost of the program and posted 81 people in 27 social service department offices to check documents, Walker said.
So far, they have not found one illegal immigrant who posed as a legal resident to get benefits, according to Deborah Walker, the county's Medi-Cal program director. Fewer than 1% of applicants between July 2008 and February 2009 lacked the proper documents, and many of those applicants eventually produced them, she said."
Medi-cal spends close to $1 billion/year providing care to illegal aliens in CA (and that is just in one state). I guess I am supposed to feel grateful that these exemplary individuals aren't trying to screw us into paying even more of their medical expenses. Who knows how many billions it would cost then.
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......one of more than 100,000 undocumented women each year who bear children in California with expenses paid by Medi-Cal, according to state reports. They now account for about one in five births.
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Such births and associated expenses account for more than $400 million of the nearly $1 billion that the program spends each year on healthcare for illegal immigrants in California, documents and reports show.
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Births and prenatal care are the biggest single outlay by Medi-Cal for illegal immigrants' healthcare, with the rest going for various other emergency treatments, limited breast and cervical cancer treatment, abortions and some nursing home care, according to the state.
And yet again, you fail to read the entire thread. If you read from the beginning. I mention that YES, there are some that do come for the healthcare but that I did not think many do and that the MAJORITY come for work opportunities. The challenge here is to provide evidence that the MAJORITY actually come for free healthcare and cross the border with a pre-existing condition. Keep ranting all you want, you are deviating from the real issue.
It does not matter if the majority do not come here for the 'free' medical care. The ones that do come here to take advantage of the US healthcare system often have significant medical problems and run up astronomical bills which are then paid by the American taxpayer.
You see, I am not interested in having my pocket picked to cover the $2+ million in expenses that illegal alien liver transplant recipient Ana Puente has run up during the two decades she has spent living illegally in the US. She is a Mexican citizen. Let the Glorious Motherland pick up her tab and repatriate her while we are at it.
Those figures do not show how many illegal immigrants cross the border to get healthcare for a pre-existing condition but thanks for the try.
If you are seeking a study that shows that 12 illegal aliens sneaked into Nevada in June of 2009: 6 to give birth, 3 to get free dialysis, 2 with kids who have congenital defects that they can get fixed here for free and one who has heart disease and has been told by his MD in Mexico that he needs surgery- you know something? You aren't going to find it. Most of the time this stuff goes on and nobody knows about it. The hospital simply provides the services because they know it will be impossible to get the patient out and returned to their home country without sending NCLR, ACLU, etc. into and absolute frenzy. The path of least resistance is to treat them and hope that they can collect some reimbursement from the feds or the state. If they don't get any money then it looks like the food service workers and the orderlies won't get the raises they were promised that year.
If you are seeking a study that shows that 12 illegal aliens sneaked into Nevada in June of 2009: 6 to give birth, 3 to get free dialysis, 2 with kids who have congenital defects that they can get fixed here for free and one who has heart disease and has been told by his MD in Mexico that he needs surgery- you know something? You aren't going to find it. Most of the time this stuff goes on and nobody knows about it. The hospital simply provides the services because they know it will be impossible to get the patient out and returned to their home country without sending NCLR, ACLU, etc. into and absolute frenzy. The path of least resistance is to treat them and hope that they can collect some reimbursement from the feds or the state. If they don't get any money then it looks like the food service workers and the orderlies won't get the raises they were promised that year.
You wont find it because most people dont usually immigrate for those reasons. Simple as that.
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