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Old 10-19-2009, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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I live 22 miles outside of San Francisco in Silicon Valley WTH are you talking about? Do you even know a thing about San Francisco?
It is more Asian than Mexican by far, if anything Americans there have surrendered to China.

You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Missed the original point I'm thinking. Where exactly do you think the names 'Los Angeles' and 'San Francisco' came from?
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:58 PM
 
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I live 22 miles outside of San Francisco in Silicon Valley WTH are you talking about?
Silicon Valley, made up of towns like; San Jose, Los Gatos, Santa Clara, Los Altos, Portola, Rancho Rinconada, Calabazas Park, Loma Verde? Towns in San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, San Benito and Monterey Counties?

That Silicon Valley?

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You haven't got a clue what you are talking about.
Not surprised.
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Old 10-19-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Missed the original point I'm thinking. Where exactly do you think the names 'Los Angeles' and 'San Francisco' came from?
Shhhh! No hints!!!
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Missed the original point I'm thinking. Where exactly do you think the names 'Los Angeles' and 'San Francisco' came from?
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Silicon Valley, made up of towns like; San Jose, Los Gatos, Santa Clara, Los Altos, Portola, Rancho Rinconada, Calabazas Park, Loma Verde? Towns in San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, San Benito and Monterey Counties?

That Silicon Valley?



Not surprised.
How about Altavista and Buena Vista, both in Virginia as well as Mexico, Missouri..........I can safely say they were not founded by Hispanics (White or otherwise).
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Silicon Valley, made up of towns like; San Jose, Los Gatos, Santa Clara, Los Altos, Portola, Rancho Rinconada, Calabazas Park, Loma Verde? Towns in San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Santa Clara, San Benito and Monterey Counties?

That Silicon Valley?



Not surprised.

City names? Is that the point by which you are using to corroborate Mexican takeover?

Geez this was dumber than I had originally thought...get a history book.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:27 PM
 
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It's true. I can't name a city of any decent size in California or America that doesn't have a large Hispanic population (nearing the majority or already is). The Hispanics are, of course, having more kids than the Whites. So you know those cities future.

People think it's a joke until they experience it first-hand.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:37 PM
 
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City names? Is that the point by which you are using to corroborate Mexican takeover?
I gave you far more credit than you obviously deserve.


Let's start from the beginning.
"Anyone looking at present day Los Angeles, San Francisco, Phoenix, Houston, Albuquerque, Chicago and New York City—cannot help but see and hear that Americans have lost America. Americans surrendered their language and culture to Mexicans"
How does one surrender their language and culture to Mexicans, with particular emphasis on language, when the very places that you cite have their origins in Mexican/Spanish culture to begin with?

This is a recurring theme amongst the angry about immigration crowd who complain about the encroachment of Spanish language speakers when they are sitting comfortably in a home located in a city, town or county that was named by Spanish speakers.

This is know to the rest of world as irony.

Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: \ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural iro·nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirōnia, from eirōn dissembler
Date: 1502
1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony
2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance
3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also dramatic irony, tragic irony
synonyms see wit

Get it?

Nothing worse than having to explain a punch line to an obtuse audience.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Here I was thinking you were actually bring up something new...

I don't agree with your wording, to portray this "ironic" point though:


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Anyone looking at present day Los Angeles, San Francisco...Americans surrendered their language and culture to Mexicans.

Does anyone other than me detect even a glimmer of irony in the above statement?
It was an obscure reference too.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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I gave you far more credit than you obviously deserve.


Let's start from the beginning.
"Anyone looking at present day Los Angeles, San Francisco, Phoenix, Houston, Albuquerque, Chicago and New York City—cannot help but see and hear that Americans have lost America. Americans surrendered their language and culture to Mexicans"
How does one surrender their language and culture to Mexicans, with particular emphasis on language, when the very places that you cite have their origins in Mexican/Spanish culture to begin with?

This is a recurring theme amongst the angry about immigration crowd who complain about the encroachment of Spanish language speakers when they are sitting comfortably in a home located in a city, town or county that was named by Spanish speakers.

This is know to the rest of world as irony.

Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: \ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural iro·nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirōnia, from eirōn dissembler
Date: 1502
1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony
2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance
3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also dramatic irony, tragic irony
synonyms see wit

Get it?

Nothing worse than having to explain a punch line to an obtuse audience.
These towns got their names long ago from people who are all dead now. That is a whole different ball of wax than being forced to speak the entire Spanish language to communicate in our country today. It is all due to illegal immigration from the south. Who would want their nation's identifying language to be changed due to an illegal invasion? You are comparing apples to oranges here.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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These towns got their names long ago from people who are all dead now.
A suddenly Poof! all of their descendants vanished from land of their forebears, with nothing remaining of their cultural heritage other than Taco Bell and Qudoba!

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That is a whole different ball of wax than being forced to speak the entire Spanish language to communicate in our country today.
¿Yo lo sienten, cuáles usted dijeron?

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It is all due to illegal immigration from the south.
You've clearly never worked in South Florida.

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Who would want their nation's identifying language to be changed due to an illegal invasion?
Hope you never have to ask that question of someone who speaks Lakhota.

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You are comparing apples to oranges here.
More like just being mildly sardonic.
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