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Old 10-21-2009, 05:27 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yea..I cant figure out why anyone would be so quick to not want our laws enforced unless maybe they are illegals , Maybe they married to one who knows...
On another thread it stated the percentage of Mexicans who know someone or have relatives in the US and it was quite high. If they are Illegally here, well that says it all. The bond is the two are related.
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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That is the issue. That Joe is pulling over US Citizens because the look Mexican. Hence the racial profiling case. Quite simple...

Before it was simple traffic violations, now it is looking like you just came up from Mexico...Good ol Joe and his love for the media. Keep him talking...
Not true! He is not pulling anyone over for their looks it is still based on the suspicion or knowledge of a minor offense such as a traffic violation or a more major offense first. It is then and only then after questioning the suspect that he uses the characteristic criteria that could depict the suspect was an illegal alien. If someone fits those characteristics but are here legally they would have valid I.D. and then let go other than being cited for the offense they were stopped for. Stop spreading untruths!
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The Pro illegal crowd is trying to convince everyone that MCSO racially profiles illegals. The fact is - MCSO does not racially profile.

The pro Illegal crowd is just PO'd that MCSO is doing their job enforcing the law.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:02 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is the issue. That Joe is pulling over US Citizens because the look Mexican. Hence the racial profiling case. Quite simple...

Before it was simple traffic violations, now it is looking like you just came up from Mexico...Good ol Joe and his love for the media. Keep him talking...

Mexican profiling...

I can tell by the vehicle, if they are here illegal or not. Hows that and I'm not even professionally trained.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:27 PM
 
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What is the problem?? That is what the federal ICE trainers taught them to do.
No ID gets you a trip to the jailhouse here, and you stay until they find out just exactly who you are, no matter what you look like. You must carry ID on you at all times. It is the law, you know.

What law says you have to carry ID 24/7? Driving is one thing, but you don't need an ID any time you are in public.
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Old 10-21-2009, 10:39 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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What law says you have to carry ID 24/7? Driving is one thing, but you don't need an ID any time you are in public.
I should have said provide. But to be able to provide it, you must have it with you.
You aren't required to carry an ID. But failure to provide identification to a police officer can be considered interfering with the officer's performance of their duties, which can get you in trouble and a trip to the pokey. The Supreme Court said that withholding ID from a police officer is not a protected activity under the 1st Amendment.

What the United States Supreme Court held in Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court (2004) 542 U.S. 177, was that a state could make it a crime for a person to refuse to identify himself
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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The Pro illegal crowd is trying to convince everyone that MCSO racially profiles illegals. The fact is - MCSO does not racially profile.

The pro Illegal crowd is just PO'd that MCSO is doing their job enforcing the law.
Joe just admitted to it.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Mexican profiling...

I can tell by the vehicle, if they are here illegal or not. Hows that and I'm not even professionally trained.
You just lost all credibility...
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Yea..I cant figure out why anyone would be so quick to not want our laws enforced unless maybe they are illegals , Maybe they married to one who knows...
I love how people who cannot argue just assume. I have ZERO family from Mexico. But whatever, I'm married to one if you think so. Still doesn't change what Joe said...

Maybe Obama should have police pull over White males because they are child rapists? Wait..that would be....
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You just lost all credibility...

Thanks! I'm flattered!
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