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Kicking them out, just won't work. You have to kill the demand for them.
True. A worker permit program like they have in Canada would control them because it controls them being able to work. They come here to work and breed . You cant stop them from breeding but you can control their ability to get their illegal hands on us dollers.
IF legislation is ever passed allowing the use of lethal force to be used on illegals/drug mules, etc.......first and foremost......along our borders.....THEN you will see a big reduction in both....ILLEGAL immigration...AND drug smuggling.
<Sigh!> Ain't gonna happen... but we can have DREAMs of our own, can't we?
Hey, on the bright side, at least Ted Kennedy's gone!
<Sigh!> Ain't gonna happen... but we can have DREAMs of our own, can't we?
Hey, on the bright side, at least Ted Kennedy's gone!
To put any kind of a dent in the # of illegals crossing illegally, the punishment for the crime has to outweigh the benefits. It is really a simple concept. Problem is, we don't punish them. We f*****g reward them by giving them benefits that our own people don't even qualify for!
those crossing the NK or IRANI border were caught and given some form of punishment (hard labor, etc).
those caught crossing the US border illegally are also given some form of punishment. they ARE NOT GIVEN SSI OR WELFARE OR WHATEVER.
thats a ridiculous claim.
try again.
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Originally Posted by ditchlights
Let me see if I understand all this....
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY...
YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR...
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY,
YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY...
IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET A
DRIVER'S LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE,
FOOD STAMPS, FREE EDUCATION, AND FREE HEALTH CARE?
Nope..I guess I still don't understand...
A workmate sent this to me. Let me hear everybody who can argue these points. I want to hear your views. The topic is as old as dirt, but as relevant as ever in today's society.
those crossing the NK or IRANI border were caught and given some form of punishment (hard labor, etc).
those caught crossing the US border illegally are also given some form of punishment. they ARE NOT GIVEN SSI OR WELFARE OR WHATEVER.
thats a ridiculous claim.
try again.
Illegals caught in this country face, at worst, being returned to their own country. They are routinely provided with medical care by simply showing up at any hospital emergency room. This care may even include birth care for children who are presumed to have full US citizenship even though they were not even conceived in this country, organ transplants, kidney dialysis, or cancer treatment. The cost of that care must either be absorbed by the hospital or is passed along to legitimate patients in the form of higher healthcare costs (e.g., the $10 aspirin). Illegals may freely register their children to be educated at our school at US taxpayer expense without fear of being asked for their status. These children are provided with funds for their care which come from the pockets of real US citizens who have worked hard to make this country what it is. They may also in many states apply for and receive drivers' licenses which then allow them to open bank accounts into which to deposit wages obtained illegally and without paying taxes. Illegals may openly protest on our streets waving the flags of their own country while wiping their feet on our flag. Illegals may freely take funds from the aforementioned bank accounts and openly send the money home without fear of being asked the source of those funds. Illegals have advocacy groups comprised of bleeding hart liberals with both self-guilt issues and a hatred of the US working on their behalf to make sure they receive benefits which even US citizens are not entitled to. Illegals may sue for wages not paid (although not legally earned) and will receive legal assistance to do so.
Illegals may not be thrown into prison simply for being here.
So where's the punishment at? Am I missing something?
I still think both Iran and North Korea have us beat on dealing with the illegal presence problem.
I would prefer that illegals live in sheer terror of the consequences of being discovered as such.
those crossing the NK or IRANI border were caught and given some form of punishment (hard labor, etc).
those caught crossing the US border illegally are also given some form of punishment. they ARE NOT GIVEN SSI OR WELFARE OR WHATEVER.
thats a ridiculous claim.
try again.
But, with catch and release, their detainment is a mere inconvenience. They know they will ultimately get the freebies. After all, if first you don’t succeed. . . .
Many have been deported 15-20 times. It’s a game of cat and mouse to them. We need to get serious. If that requires militarizing our borders, so be it.
Illegals caught in this country face, at worst, being returned to their own country. They are routinely provided with medical care by simply showing up at any hospital emergency room. This care may even include birth care for children who are presumed to have full US citizenship even though they were not even conceived in this country, organ transplants, kidney dialysis, or cancer treatment. The cost of that care must either be absorbed by the hospital or is passed along to legitimate patients in the form of higher healthcare costs (e.g., the $10 aspirin). Illegals may freely register their children to be educated at our school at US taxpayer expense without fear of being asked for their status. These children are provided with funds for their care which come from the pockets of real US citizens who have worked hard to make this country what it is. They may also in many states apply for and receive drivers' licenses which then allow them to open bank accounts into which to deposit wages obtained illegally and without paying taxes. Illegals may openly protest on our streets waving the flags of their own country while wiping their feet on our flag. Illegals may freely take funds from the aforementioned bank accounts and openly send the money home without fear of being asked the source of those funds. Illegals have advocacy groups comprised of bleeding hart liberals with both self-guilt issues and a hatred of the US working on their behalf to make sure they receive benefits which even US citizens are not entitled to. Illegals may sue for wages not paid (although not legally earned) and will receive legal assistance to do so.
Illegals may not be thrown into prison simply for being here.
So where's the punishment at? Am I missing something?
I still think both Iran and North Korea have us beat on dealing with the illegal presence problem.
I would prefer that illegals live in sheer terror of the consequences of being discovered as such.
That is precisely what we need. Anything less is a joke.
But, with catch and release, their detainment is a mere inconvenience. They know they will ultimately get the freebies. After all, if first you don’t succeed. . . .
Many have been deported 15-20 times. It’s a game of cat and mouse to them. We need to get serious. If that requires militarizing our borders, so be it.
Who gives them these "freebies" you are talking about? How long have they been getting them?
Who gives them these "freebies" you are talking about? How long have they been getting them?
C’mon, blacknight, let’s not play games. We both know illegals are fleecing this country big time. Just Google.
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Ain't gonna happen... but we can have DREAMs of our own, can't we?
