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Old 11-06-2009, 02:34 AM
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This article has some good points and some that I dont agree with. I will open it up for discussion.

Study: Immigration raids hurt workers rights | enforcement, immigration, workers, illegal, report - News - OCRegister.com

The Study accuses ICE of the following:

•taking enforcement action at the behest of employers, their surrogates, and other police agencies;
•conducting immigration-focused surveillance in the midst of labor disputes;
•conducting enforcement action with full knowledge of an ongoing labor dispute;
•engaging in subterfuge to carry out enforcement actions; and
•directly interfering with the administration of justice by arresting workers on the courthouse steps.
Here is a quote from one of the readers. I thought it was very interesting.

I WAS a union employer and was forced by our agreement to hire the illegals they sent us with false documentation. I HAD TO PAY UNION WAGES TO ILLEGALS who did not know the language, had no skills and were being used by the unions they joined.

The unions want the illegals here and look the other way to further their own agenda. The unions are corrupt and outdated and are now running this country. Ask yourself why our borders are still wide open.

BTW, employers should not have to investigate to try to determine if hires are illegal. You can buy false documents almost anywhere and you HAVE TO HIRE who the union sends you. Close the borders NOW and break the unions.
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Old 11-06-2009, 07:24 AM
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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Illegal Immigration HURTS workers rights..

When wages are brought down due to Illegal Aliens who are willing to do the job for a cheaper price AND without benefits, this hurts the American working class..

When Illegal Aliens steal and use faulty Social Security Numbers this hurts American workers as in many cases equal identity theft..

When Illegal Aliens work tax free and send millions of dollars out of the country each year, that's money that is LEAVING the American economy, therefore hurting American workers..

Seems that Unions, which used to be a necessary evil to ensure that workers could negotiate their wages and benefits, are just as corrupt as other employers of Illegal Aliens.. Of course unions want their membership dues so that they can continue to lobby for "change" from American Government officials..
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Old 11-06-2009, 08:17 AM
Location: San Diego
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Immigration raids hurt the "rights?" of Illegal Aliens? Hardly, they have no rights.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:04 AM
Location: Pa
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I dont know. Do drug raids on Methlabs hurt workers rights?
What about stings on prostituion rings?
I would not know first hand as I am not a criminal but it must be a bear to practice crime when laws are being enforced.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:10 AM
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Immigration raids hurt EVERYONE'S rights. It's unpleasant and disturbing that we should have to witness such heavy-handed tactics in a free society. But when you let 20 million people into your country without going through the proper procedures, 'unpleasantness' will be the inevitable result.

Lesson to be learned? Control your borders. If you do so, you will not need to conduct 'workplace raids' later on. In fact, if you simply control your borders, you'd avoid all SORTS of controversy, ethnic discord, 'scoldings' from nearby countries, and other stuff. It's a lot easier to 'do the job right' in the first place, than to have 'clean up the mess' later.

If you think it's hard and unpopular to KEEP people out, try GETTING them out, once they're here.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:39 AM
Location: Maryland
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Absolutely not! Why would anyone oppose holding unscrupulous employers accountable for hiring illegal aliens? If they use E-Verify, they will have at least made every effort to ensure they are in compliance with our laws.

If jobs are the primary magnet for illegal immigration, why not do everything possible to prevent illegals from working? We need more raids, not less.
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