Should the police ask Hispanic Day Laborers for their papers? (naturalization, medical)

[Nativechief]

I have no problem with showing my ID. Im in the system and am identified in several different ways now so why shouldnt these non english speaking street people not have their IDs?,,Lets check and be sure they have registered with the selective service too. Afterall OUR sons are forsed to register. My neighbor just had his roof replaced. All I heard for three days was spanish being hollered by the workers. When I had my roof replaced I told the owner that if I saw any of his men that even looked hispanic I would require for him to PROVE they were 100% documented as legal OUR HE WOULDNT GET PAID TILL HE DID SO. He didnt like it but its my house and my money AND MY DECISION,,,

[malamute]

Originally Posted by monkey cabal

I think the whole concept of day laborers is great. I've used them a number of times. But I would not want their central pick-up spot to be right in front of my house. I would not mind if it was near my office building. But I wouldn't want dozens of any type of people milling around my front lawn. It would bug me if a dozen Catholic nuns hung around all day across the street from my home.

I think the whole concept is terrible. It's not good for this country to have tens of millions of unemployed people who can work on a day-to-day basis. Yes it's great for the greedy types who believe in having plenty of dirt-paid peons and servants but it is not good for this country.

[malamute]

At least back in the days of slavery, the slave masters were expected to provide housing and some kind of living for their slaves, they fed them. Now people think it's a good thing for people to be sleeping under the bushes at night, living with no insurance, paid very little and no steady income --- just so they get all the cheap labor possible. The hungrier and more desperate -- the better.

[Fox Terrier]

Maybe it's time to bring back the concept of indentured servitude. The illegals can pay off their debt to society by providing free labor for five years or whatever while being provided food and shelter.

I think I'm kidding, though.

[High Springs Gator]

We shoud have never allowed the presense of illegal day laborers from the beginning. That is why we have so many problems with them now.

[energizerrabbit]

What kind of problems?

[BentBow]

Just like standing on the corner in gangs, selling drugs.
They are selling illegal labor.

[High Springs Gator]

Originally Posted by energizerrabbit

What kind of problems?

Harms Caused by Disorder at Day Laborer Sites

Potential problems associated with day laborer sites center mostly on where laborers congregate while waiting for work, and not at the workplaces themselves. The following are among the many reasons police need to be concerned with day laborer activity.
Public Disorder

• The presence of large numbers of laborers and contractors often creates parking and traffic problems.
• The constant congregation of laborers in the same place for many hours creates loitering problems.
• Laborers often leave discarded bottles, food wrappers, and other litter at day laborer sites.
• Laborers may vandalize area property or deface property with graffiti.
• Laborers waiting all day for work may urinate in public.
• Injuries among laborers related to “swarming” may occur. Swarming often occurs when there are many more laborers than the contractor needs. Injuries sometimes occur when many laborers “swarm” around a contractor’s vehicle, hoping to be selected for a job.
• Laborers congregating on sidewalks may harass pedestrians.

Crime

• Simple and aggravated assaults may take place at day laborer sites.
• Laborers may be routinely robbed.[2]
• Laborers may drink and sell or use illicit drugs in public.

Economic Concerns

• Immigrant day laborers may make it more difficult for community residents to find work.
• Increased contractors’ reliance on day laborers may undercut salary levels and employee benefits for full-time workers.

Spillover Effects

• The presence of troublesome day laborer sites may incite citizens’ frustration and disdain for immigrants.
• Disorderly day laborer sites could lead to increased fear of crime among community members.
• Uncontrolled day laborer sites in residential areas may affect property values.

Center for Problem Oriented Policing | Problem Guides | Disorder at Day Laborer Sites

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by Failed Job Applicant

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Would you support the police asking day laborers for their papers?

What papers? There are no 'papers' that anyone carries around with them that proves immigration status or citizenship. The police would be asking for something that does not exist.

[Nativechief]

Originally Posted by Fox Terrier

Maybe it's time to bring back the concept of indentured servitude. The illegals can pay off their debt to society by providing free labor for five years or whatever while being provided food and shelter.

I think I'm kidding, though.

That is a great idea. Let them work off their fine for breaking the law OR deport them being sure they are finger printed so if caught here again they will go to jail where they will work for free making car tags and cleaning up the road sides and picking fruit for the state...