Would our immigrant forefathers be proud of us.... (illegal immigration, law, accuse)

[borderlord]

Originally Posted by monkey cabal

Maybe not written laws. But Native Americans (or Indians or whatever) enforced customs and social norms just like we do today with our laws. Maybe they did not need to have written laws because they did not have any lawyers. In that respect Indians may have been more advanced than we are today.

Originally Posted by monkey cabal
If you go back far enough WE were the illegal aliens. Native Americans hated to see us invading their pristine countryside and ruining their nations.
Not sure just who the "We" you refer to might be....

but what about the Apache ( Chirichaua) mexican wars during the 1870's?

[monkey cabal]

Originally Posted by borderlord

Not sure just who the "We" you refer to might be....

Well, probably you, for one.

Originally Posted by borderlord

but what about the Apache ( Chirichaua) mexican wars during the 1870's?

Can't say I know much about that part of our history.

[d-iron]

Originally Posted by 1979

Our ancestors would be appalled by the fact that we have allowed people to immigrate to this country that they created, who do not share the culture, or the value system that our Western European ancestors ingrained in American civilization. They were the very people that built this nation: and made it what it is. Our ancestors would see how immigrants who come here today, exploit this country. People who came here centuries ago, came here to GIVE; immigrants who come here today, come here to TAKE! Immigrants who come here today are lazy, and know about subsidies. Those immigrants who came here decades ago ago didn't have welfare, foodstamps, social security disability, section 8 housing, WIC programs, and they didn't care! That was not why they came, they came to work hard. Back then, unlike today, however, there was a need for manual labor.

Also, our ancestors never in a million years would have regarded "people of color" as equals in anyway. They would not have been considered for the privileges they are afforded today by the bureacracy, culture and establishment created by white people. They knew more than anybody that this thing called "diversity" was nothing more than a sham; that it would infect this country like a virus. They overwhelmingly agreed with the National Origins Act which permitted people from Western Europe to come here. Looking what has happened since the National Origins Act was abolished 44 years ago, it has become quite clear, our ancestors were right. Immigrants who come here today, represent the greatest liability our nation has faced. They don't speak the language, nor do they want to. They often have no skills, and truthfully our economy does not allow for such large increases in population year after year. Our country does not create jobs the way it once did.

And the Irish? What about them? Were they included in the National Origins act? Because Homie they were shi*&ed on when they first came here. But they eventually assimilated.

Dude the Mexicans work there a&^es off here, calling them lazy welfare collected leaches is just foolish.

[John C. H.]

I love how all these "Americans" talk crap about illegal immigrants. Give me a break. This is the new code word for Latinos. Now that we can't pick on the Blacks anymore, let's move on to the Latinos..they are an easy target. And what every "American" needs to remember is that this is NOT OUR NATIVE LAND. You all have immigrant blood. Our founding "fathers" stole this land, plain and simple. They were not sent invitations nor granted permission to rape their woman, kill their men and steal their lands. And this country has been built on immigration ever since, even if you choose not to accept it. Get over it.

[borderlord]

"Can't say I know much about that part of our history"

Not surprised.....

good night,and be well....

bl

[borderlord]

Originally Posted by john c. H.

i love how all these "americans" talk crap about illegal immigrants. Give me a break. This is the new code word for latinos. Now that we can't pick on the blacks anymore, let's move on to the latinos..they are an easy target. And what every "american" needs to remember is that this is not our native land. You all have immigrant blood. Our founding "fathers" stole this land, plain and simple. They were not sent invitations nor granted permission to rape their woman, kill their men and steal their lands. And this country has been built on immigration ever since, even if you choose not to accept it. Get over it.

good night

[Deezus]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

Probably not...but not for the reasons you think.

Dialog International: Ben Franklin on "Stupid, Swarthy Germans"

It's quite interesting that some of the quotes attributed to Benjamin Franklin in that article sound remarkably similar to a lot of the rhetoric tossed around these days when discussing immigrants.

"Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion."

"And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased."

Thankfully Benjamin Franklin didn't live to see the future of America, where children attend kindergarten, while their parent eat hamburgers and frankfurters while drinking lager produced by Anheuser-Busch. The horror..

[Pappy&Me]

Originally Posted by borderlord

Considering the USA allows more immigration that most of the rest of the industrialized world COMBINED they would probably be a bit upset with us.

Of course,here on this forum we discuss Illegal Aliens,not immigrants.

You sure You are on the correct forum ?

He are a few links You can use concerning how our Founding Fathers felt in regards to immigration, which I'm sure will help You :

Center for Immigration Studies

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/A...migration.html


I'm sure there are more sources.....

bl

Good read , I saved some it . After 30 minutes I loes interest .

The 60s brought more than immorality and sickness to our young it was also possbly the begining of the end of their future in a first world nation. They have a good chance of being third world citizenry.

www.againstamnesty.com

[Nativechief]

Originally Posted by monkey cabal

If you go back far enough WE were the illegal aliens. Native Americans hated to see us invading their pristine countryside and ruining their nations.

Not in the same way the illegal aliens are today. You see we got rules and punishment for those who break our laws...The poor Indians didnt......

[Read Culture of Critique]

Immigrants of the past made America a better place. Today's immigrants are vultures, trying to take what my ancestors created for their posterity. There is no need whatsoever for illegal aliens, H1-B visa aliens, and all the sort who do NOTHING to make this a better nation. They decrease its value, and make it more Balkanized. They are colonists/invaders, and are here to take all they can, without giving anything back. They do not pay their fair share of taxes, they do not make this a smarter place, they do nothing that we really need.