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Old 11-07-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Our ancestors would be appalled by the fact that we have allowed people to immigrate to this country that they created, who do not share the culture, or the value system that our Western European ancestors ingrained in American civilization. They were the very people that built this nation: and made it what it is. Our ancestors would see how immigrants who come here today, exploit this country. People who came here centuries ago, came here to GIVE; immigrants who come here today, come here to TAKE! Immigrants who come here today are lazy, and know about subsidies. Those immigrants who came here decades ago ago didn't have welfare, foodstamps, social security disability, section 8 housing, WIC programs, and they didn't care! That was not why they came, they came to work hard. Back then, unlike today, however, there was a need for manual labor.

Also, our ancestors never in a million years would have regarded "people of color" as equals in anyway. They would not have been considered for the privileges they are afforded today by the bureacracy, culture and establishment created by white people. They knew more than anybody that this thing called "diversity" was nothing more than a sham; that it would infect this country like a virus. They overwhelmingly agreed with the National Origins Act which permitted people from Western Europe to come here. Looking what has happened since the National Origins Act was abolished 44 years ago, it has become quite clear, our ancestors were right. Immigrants who come here today, represent the greatest liability our nation has faced. They don't speak the language, nor do they want to. They often have no skills, and truthfully our economy does not allow for such large increases in population year after year. Our country does not create jobs the way it once did.

As the majority of people believe, this country was created by god, and thousands of years before the Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de Leon founded the firrst city of the US territory, San Agustin FL, for thousands of years before that native americans roamed and protected the land, only in the past three centuries did the european descendants had control, and for most of that time they did so through slavery, and apartheid, the new era began after the civil rights movement of the 60's when apartheid was officially forbidden, the new earhas just culminated with the election of the first black president,
which ratified our nation as a diversified, multi-cultural one, each of these changes have been permanent in nature, we are not going back to exclusion, apartheid, slavery or any other primitive nonsense...

 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:00 PM
 
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Yes, and no. Times change so we have to adjust. Our economic system is different now, we have legals have to pay taxes, If your a man you have to register in the draft. We all have to sign up for a SSN. If immigrants want to do it the legal way I am all for it..but, learn the language, and do your homework. Dont come here expecting a free ride. Work hard for a living. We need to stop giving every immigrants that comes here a loan or grant so they can open a business. They need to start off like the rest(most) of us. They need to start at the bottom of the food chain and work up saving money as they go so they can open their business.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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LOL...you are so anti-immigrant racist and not ashamed to show it. White people who came here and stole lands because they were running away from their kings is a funny thing. And then went to African to import slaves to work their new stolen lands to get rich. People like that are called corrupted, godless thieves in my book. Yeah, I'm sure they wanted us to continue that "culture" you speak of. Diversity to them back them was the backward, savage, uncivilized Indians and Black slaves. You are right, they didn't intend for this country to be as diverse as today. It was really meant for the English to escape British rule and become independent in a new land away from the King. Wouldn't it be cool if we ran our country EXACTLY the way it was back then. Oh the fun!
Actually, when the first settlers came here they wanted the natives to be included in their culture. The English learned a manner about harvesting indigenous crops from the natives, and the English in turn shared their own techniques of harvesting as well. The English wanted the natives to live in houses where they would be kept warmer, than in tepees. They wanted the native children to go to the same schools the settlers children, but the natives saw this as a way of losing their culture. Funny, how they've changed since then? Now, most of them want casinos.

Yes, the early settlers came here, for not just freedom, but for democratic rule under a free society. They established a judicial system, a system of commerce, Eventually, the U.S. would be turned into the greatest industrial power, envied by the entire world.

You have every right to be jealous. If your ancestors contributed nothing, what better way to sham a people who created something great, your people had little to do with, but to distort and castigate them as criminals.

Of course, your going to bad mouth the forefathers of this country. While European explorers were maping out the world, the people in Africa were running around naked, fighting with enemy tribes, and suffering from diseases like small pox, diptheria, typhoid, yellow fever, all of which the colonists would eventually find cures for.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:14 PM
 
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And the Irish? What about them? Were they included in the National Origins act? Because Homie they were shi*&ed on when they first came here. But they eventually assimilated.

Dude the Mexicans work there a&^es off here, calling them lazy welfare collected leaches is just foolish.

Vrry well said, it seems like some people like repeating their own lies, thinking that eventually they will become true, LOL....
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Why would you be accused of being racist when you state you are a "person of color?" Systematically, through years of careful sensitizing, it has been made more than apparent, only white people can be considered "racist." Tiptoeing around the issue in fear of being accused of racism is just one of many ways the politically correct thought police use to control. Although, concern over illegal immigration, as well as curbing immigration as a whole is really NOT an issue of racism, the media with its twisted take on the issue will make it out to be an issue of racism, regardless. Truthfully, its rare when a "person of color" shows concern over the rampant abuse our country experiences from illegal immigration anyway.

Do you really think the quality of your life would have been better in Africa? Where, to this day, slavery still exists. But, then again, I guess its OK since its black on black slavery.
Obviously, you donít know many ďpeople of colorĒ to make such an asinine statement. Of course, I wouldnít expect a white supremacist to mingle with those they consider to be inferior beings. I hate to burst your bubble, but black people are citizens of this country. Black people have also fought and died for this country. Why should I, as a citizen, not be concerned with that which threatens its future?

Black on black slavery is nothing new; nor is white on white. As a matter of fact, black tribal leaders sold their people to the white slave traders who brought them to this country.

Letís see. . . given my multiracial background, Iím not sure if I would have remained in this country with my Indian relatives, moved to Germany with my grandmotherís family, or gone to the Motherland.

I have as much right to this country as you or any other white supremacist. If you donít like it, tough! Iím not leaving, and you damn sure canít make me.

To avoid the risk of being banned, this will conclude my discussions with you. Poof!
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:33 PM
 
Location: El Paso
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only in the past three centuries did the european descendants had control, and for most of that time they did so through slavery, and apartheid, the new era began after the civil rights movement of the 60's when apartheid was officially forbidden, the new earhas just culminated with the election of the first black president,
which ratified our nation as a diversified, multi-cultural one, each of these changes have been permanent in nature, we are not going back to exclusion, apartheid, slavery or any other primitive nonsense...
The Europeans had control from slavery and apartheid alone? This doesn't make sense? They had control from their ingenuity, through various inventions, and breakthroughs in technology. Only a small percent of white settlers had slaves. The middle class whites had no slaves, and much of the labor in this country came from indentured servents as well.

You have your black president, so people of color should be happy. In spite of the fact, that the media did an incredible job of lacerating Hillary Clinton every chance they got, at the same time dramatically supporting B. Hussein every chance they got. Isn't it funny how information of William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright was suppressed so successfully, until Obama had already won several states. Even after Hillary had won every single large state in the country (CA,FL,MI,TX,NY,PA,OH) the media was still suggesting in various subliminal ways she should just resign. It can only be described as perhaps, the most incredible case of solidarity within people of color when Obama became elected (we can't forget the help from ACORN). A president, who was more concerned about judging a police officer for doing his job in Cambridge,MA when he didn't even have any of the facts, than he was about 13 dead soldiers, and 30+ wounded after an attack from a Muslim.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 02:32 PM
 
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Actually, under the National Origins Act, there was no quota on Mexicans who came here. They were allowed to immigrate, free of any quotas. Also, I wouldn't compare an Irishman to a Mexican. Afterall, the Irish "wanted" to assimilate.
Their "American" children have assimilated.

I'm 1/4 Mexican and I've assimilated, so who's not assimilating?
 
Old 11-07-2009, 02:45 PM
 
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The Europeans had control from slavery and apartheid alone? This doesn't make sense? They had control from their ingenuity, through various inventions, and breakthroughs in technology. Only a small percent of white settlers had slaves. The middle class whites had no slaves, and much of the labor in this country came from indentured servents as well.

You have your black president, so people of color should be happy. In spite of the fact, that the media did an incredible job of lacerating Hillary Clinton every chance they got, at the same time dramatically supporting B. Hussein every chance they got. Isn't it funny how information of William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright was suppressed so successfully, until Obama had already won several states. Even after Hillary had won every single large state in the country (CA,FL,MI,TX,NY,PA,OH) the media was still suggesting in various subliminal ways she should just resign. It can only be described as perhaps, the most incredible case of solidarity within people of color when Obama became elected (we can't forget the help from ACORN). A president, who was more concerned about judging a police officer for doing his job in Cambridge,MA when he didn't even have any of the facts, than he was about 13 dead soldiers, and 30+ wounded after an attack from a Muslim.

In sumarry we have become a muti=cultural bilingual society....
 
Old 11-07-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Pa
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They were wise men and foward thinking. They would analize the situation, starting with the behavior of our elected reps. They would shake their heads in sorrow at how a great and wonderful idea has been twisted. The idea of a great nation.
They would see that we need to protect our hard won nation and see that our need for unskilled uneducated labor is limited. They would further recognize that these illegals lack the very courage that they themselves had when they fought for our independence. They would then scold our elected reps who seem to have forgotten that they are supposed to represent the people and our best interests, not those of the illegals, lobbiests, and personal cronies. They would be outraged by DC politics and the blatent waste.
In summary they would most like be embarassed for us, we the gullable voter.
 
Old 11-07-2009, 08:35 PM
 
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In sumarry we have become a muti=cultural bilingual society....
No we haven't! We still have a basic and dominant culture and language. All others are just miniority cultures living among us. So that doesn't make us multi- anything per se.
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