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Old 11-13-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I know you meant this unintentionally, but that is exactly the same logic YOU used...Ironic, yet doesn't even realize it.
Wow.

 
Old 11-14-2009, 08:00 AM
 
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Don’t flatter yourself. I’m not mad. There simply is no debating nonsense. If I said the sky is blue, you would say -- only if there are no clouds. . . and then it could rain. . . and then it could snow. . . and then we could have a tornado. . . and then it could be night.
Note Benicar, that it is only the pro-illegals who are going along with the nonsense he is posting. I know what you are saying but he always tries to twist things anyway just for the sake of argument.

Wait till he starts contacting you privately like he has done with me many times just trying to keep his non-sensical arguments going. Or has he done that to you already?
 
Old 11-14-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Wait till he starts contacting you privately like he has done with me many times just trying to keep his non-sensical arguments going.

That is the exact reason, they went on the ignore list.
PM harassment, that the ignore feature took care of.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 12:43 PM
 
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Note Benicar, that it is only the pro-illegals who are going along with the nonsense he is posting. I know what you are saying but he always tries to twist things anyway just for the sake of argument.

Wait till he starts contacting you privately like he has done with me many times just trying to keep his non-sensical arguments going. Or has he done that to you already?
It's funny that you call my arguments nonsensical. Half the time you don't even have a clue what's going on. I find it funny. I always did wonder if people like you guys existed. My friends and I had this bet going on. They wanted me to see how ignorant some people are. I thought that people had some common sense and, some intelligence. Well, I'm $20 in the hole because of you two.

You showed me that it is possible in life to live with such an irrational fear when other more pressing issues are going on. You showed me that it is possible to not fully understand the argument and yet campaign and garner support. You should me that it's not who has the best idea, but who can scream the loudest.

So I guess thanks for opening up my eyes and making me realize that there are people who live like you. God help us all.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 01:06 PM
 
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Your position, not you personally.

Plus, what increase in crime? This is what I don't understand...crime has decreased during the highest extent of illegal immigration. It's only now (with illegal immigration waning) that crime has slightly increased. Economics play a bigger role in crime.

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Crime rates have decreased because many states have passed tougher sentencing laws ("3 strikes" for example) over the past 20 years. The longer we can keep career criminals behind bars, the fewer crimes they'll commit in their lifetimes.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 01:31 PM
 
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Crime rates have decreased because many states have passed tougher sentencing laws ("3 strikes" for example) over the past 20 years. The longer we can keep career criminals behind bars, the fewer crimes they'll commit in their lifetimes.
Umm...3 strikes may have less to do with it than the absurdly low unemployment during the 1990s and 2000s.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 02:21 PM
 
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It's funny that you call my arguments nonsensical. Half the time you don't even have a clue what's going on. I find it funny. I always did wonder if people like you guys existed. My friends and I had this bet going on. They wanted me to see how ignorant some people are. I thought that people had some common sense and, some intelligence. Well, I'm $20 in the hole because of you two.

You showed me that it is possible in life to live with such an irrational fear when other more pressing issues are going on. You showed me that it is possible to not fully understand the argument and yet campaign and garner support. You should me that it's not who has the best idea, but who can scream the loudest.

So I guess thanks for opening up my eyes and making me realize that there are people who live like you. God help us all.
Are you done with your unsubstantiated accusations and insults yet? No one agrees with your nonsensical arguments in here but the pro-illegal whiners, aiders and abettors.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Are you done with your unsubstantiated accusations and insults yet? No one agrees with your nonsensical arguments in here but the pro-illegal whiners, aiders and abettors.
Why do you guys get soooooooo angry, hot and bothered when someone takes a different position than you. It's either everyone has to agree with you and your points or view or they should be ignorned and banned. Please...if you can't take the heat, get out the kitchen.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 05:16 PM
 
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Why do you guys get soooooooo angry, hot and bothered when someone takes a different position than you. It's either everyone has to agree with you and your points or view or they should be ignorned and banned. Please...if you can't take the heat, get out the kitchen.
Having a different point of view and expressing it isn't the same thing as calling me "ignorant" and saying "I can't believe there are people like you". If you are going to butt in then I suggest you read what I was responding to. If he has to hurl insults then he has the problem with anger, not me.
 
Old 11-14-2009, 05:48 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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I do that's why I posted that statement since YOU posted the same type of ridiculous argument. I think you don't realize that...

I'll go slower...

If A group enter, they can commit B (this will be our template).

If (Babies) enter, they can commit (rape)

If (illegal immigrants) enter, they can commit (rape)

If (blone haired people) enter, they can commit (rape)

However, we know that that these attributes do not commit the rape, rather its the individual. The word "can" implies that there is uncertainty. The reason is because more intrinsic variables play a bigger role (mental health, stability, etc.) vs. these larger groupings.

So that's why your logic is flawed. It's simply too broad.
Entering the US = breaking US laws. Using someone else's social security number to gain employment or benefits = breaking US laws. Accepting employment where one is paid under the table and no taxes are withheld = breaking US laws. What other country even puts up with this widespread lawbreaking without enforcement???? Wake up America!
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