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Old 11-13-2009, 12:33 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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i think you missed the point entirely.

being in a country without documentation, does not predispose someone to being a rapist or killer.

to think so is ludicrous.

yes, some illegals commit crime, so do blondes and so do blacks, and women.

the reality is that most illegals DONT commit crimes(not couting illegal presence in the US) because that will shine a spotlight on them. they prefer to fly under the radar. most will prefer to [and do] lead a pretty respectful lawful life.

those that do get drunk and go driving, those that rape, those that kill are the MINORITY. and those individuals... they can get jail, and the boot.


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You make this entirely too easy. These are a few of the countless rapes and DUIs committed by illegal aliens.


Illegal immigrant charged with child rape had been released a year earlier after assault arrest | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/local/crime/Illegal-immigrant-charged-with-child-rape-had-been-released-a-year-earlier-after-assault-arrest-43443292.html - broken link)


Illegal immigrant pleads guilty to rape of 12-year-old - Kingsport Times-News Online


Man pleads guilty to raping Conn. jogger- The New Haven Register - Serving New Haven, Connecticut


2 Gaston County teens plead guilty to raping children ages 2 and 7 | raping, guilty, old - Local News - Gaston Gazette


Drunk Driver Gets 55 Years For Killing Tri-State Couple - Cincinnati News Story - WLWT Cincinnati (http://www.wlwt.com/news/14504576/detail.html - broken link)


The Jail Report: Illegal Immigrant Driving Drunk in Aiken County


KTAR.com - Officer's death prompts call for tougher policies

 
Old 11-13-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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i think you missed the point entirely.

being in a country without documentation, does not predispose someone to being a rapist or killer.

to think so is ludicrous.

yes, some illegals commit crime, so do blondes and so do blacks, and women.

the reality is that most illegals DONT commit crimes(not couting illegal presence in the US) because that will shine a spotlight on them. they prefer to fly under the radar. most will prefer to [and do] lead a pretty respectful lawful life.

those that do get drunk and go driving, those that rape, those that kill are the MINORITY. and those individuals... they can get jail, and the boot.
I never stated that illegal immigration predisposes one to commit rape or other crimes. I also never stated that the majority are violent criminals. However, to attempt to portray illegal aliens as being pillars of society, and to deny the reality of illegal alien criminality, is, at the very least, disingenuous.

No, they are not all violent criminals. However, there are thousands who are. Given that NONE of them should be here, we should not have to tolerate those who are and do in fact commit heinous crimes.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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The percentage of crimes committed by illegal aliens is totally irrelevant. Who cares what the trends may or may not be? The fact remains they do commit rape and DUIs, as well as other crimes. You are fighting a losing battle. Learn when to fold.
That's MORE important than a few isolated incidents.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 12:52 PM
 
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i think you missed the point entirely.

being in a country without documentation, does not predispose someone to being a rapist or killer.

to think so is ludicrous.

yes, some illegals commit crime, so do blondes and so do blacks, and women.

the reality is that most illegals DONT commit crimes(not couting illegal presence in the US) because that will shine a spotlight on them. they prefer to fly under the radar. most will prefer to [and do] lead a pretty respectful lawful life.

those that do get drunk and go driving, those that rape, those that kill are the MINORITY. and those individuals... they can get jail, and the boot.
Exactly what I mean.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 12:56 PM
 
Location: CITY OF ANGELS AND CONSTANT DANGER
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you are absolutely correct. we should not tolerate those violent criminal offenders.

AND lets look at accurate data instead of using such a broad brush to paint illegals as hordes of raving lunatics and rapists and murderers.

on a side note... i dont know how i feel about this, and i think it has to do with my time spent on this board; as you know i live in LA. and as you may or may not know i take public transportation alot. that being the case, anytime i see a foreigner, particularly the brown variety, i now wonder in my head... could they be illegal.

i never did this before.
dont know how i feel about this.
do you wonder this? how often do you encounter what you supsect are illegals? i find my self doing this quite a lot lately. i confess.

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I never stated that illegal immigration predisposes one to commit rape or other crimes. I also never stated that the majority are violent criminals. However, to attempt to portray illegal aliens as being pillars of society, and to deny the reality of illegal alien criminality, is, at the very least, disingenuous.

No, they are not all violent criminals. However, there are thousands who are. Given that NONE of them should be here, we should not have to tolerate those who are and do in fact commit heinous crimes.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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You can post that ALL day till the cows come home, but it doesn't prove a thing, since there is nothing concerning the actual RATE.
So, it should be acceptable if only a few hundred women and/or children are raped because it COULD be thousands?

Those hundreds would not have happened if illegal aliens were not in our country.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 01:29 PM
 
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Then let's not have anyone alive then...Since people could be raped.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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That's MORE important than a few isolated incidents.
Isolated incidents? Tell that to the 1 million rape victims of illegal aliens. Tell that to the families of the thousands of murder victims of illegals. It may be an isolated incident to you, but if you were a victim, or had friends or relatives who were victims, you would sing a different tune.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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you are absolutely correct. we should not tolerate those violent criminal offenders.

AND lets look at accurate data instead of using such a broad brush to paint illegals as hordes of raving lunatics and rapists and murderers.

on a side note... i dont know how i feel about this, and i think it has to do with my time spent on this board; as you know i live in LA. and as you may or may not know i take public transportation alot. that being the case, anytime i see a foreigner, particularly the brown variety, i now wonder in my head... could they be illegal.

i never did this before.
dont know how i feel about this.
do you wonder this? how often do you encounter what you supsect are illegals? i find my self doing this quite a lot lately. i confess.
It is only human nature. Given the sheer numbers of Hispanic illegal aliens in this country, I believe many people can relate to your feelings. I do the same. It has nothing whatsoever to do with being anti any ethnic group; itís simply the result of massive illegal immigration comprised primarily of one ethnic group.
 
Old 11-13-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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That's a retort with no merit whatsoever.
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