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Old 11-13-2009, 03:29 AM
 
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For those of you that keep saying that illegal immigrants cost more on government services than they actually put into our economy, here is an informative article from the HARVARD Latino Law Review.

This article will also answer many questions regarding tax questions.

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Many Americans believe that undocumented immigrants are exploiting the United States economy. The widespread belief is that “illegal aliens” cost more in government services than they contribute to the economy. This belief is demonstrably false. “Every empirical study of illegals’ economic impact demonstrates the opposite . . . : undocumenteds actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services.”
The Taxation of Undocumented Immigrants: Separate, Unequal, and Without Representation (http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/llr/vol9/lipman.php#Heading169 - broken link)
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:48 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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For those of you that keep saying that illegal immigrants cost more on government services than they actually put into our economy, here is an informative article from the HARVARD Latino Law Review.

This article will also answer many questions regarding tax questions.



The Taxation of Undocumented Immigrants: Separate, Unequal, and Without Representation (http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/llr/vol9/lipman.php#Heading169 - broken link)
Do you want to give Right wing conservatives a heart attack or stroke with this?
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:02 AM
 
Location: Texas
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For those of you that keep saying that illegal immigrants cost more on government services than they actually put into our economy, here is an informative article from the HARVARD Latino Law Review.

This article will also answer many questions regarding tax questions.



The Taxation of Undocumented Immigrants: Separate, Unequal, and Without Representation (http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/llr/vol9/lipman.php#Heading169 - broken link)
Many illegals work under the table for cash. No tax generated there. Anything in the article about the governments costs to paying the unemployed because an illegal took their job? Or the costs of other government programs like food stamps because the illegals have lowered the hourly wage? Or the fact that most of the money leaves the country and isn't spent here meaning less tax money generated?
I guess it doesn't matter that it's illegal as long as you can save a buck on your lawn care or restaurant bill.
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:36 AM
 
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Many illegals work under the table for cash. No tax generated there. Anything in the article about the governments costs to paying the unemployed because an illegal took their job? Or the costs of other government programs like food stamps because the illegals have lowered the hourly wage? Or the fact that most of the money leaves the country and isn't spent here meaning less tax money generated?
I guess it doesn't matter that it's illegal as long as you can save a buck on your lawn care or restaurant bill.
Clearly you did not read the article. Many do pay taxes. Just read the article.

"Most" of the money does not leave the US. These are people who also have to survive here and need to contribute to two economies in order to survive.
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:38 AM
 
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Do you want to give Right wing conservatives a heart attack or stroke with this?


Well, they need some real facts. Not the Lou Dobbs false info. Furthermore, this is recent info from Harvard. It was published in 2006.

*opps..I see I typed question twice.
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:54 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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I would hardly call a study done by an ethnocnetric race identity organization such as "HARVARD "LATINO" LAW" to be credible..

Secondly, why should racial identity have ANYTHING to do with the law? Umm.. it shouldn't..
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Old 11-13-2009, 04:59 AM
 
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I would hardly call a study done by an ethnocnetric race identity organization such as "HARVARD "LATINO" LAW" to be credible..

Secondly, why should racial identity have ANYTHING to do with the law? Umm.. it shouldn't..
The study was not based on one ethnicity. It was based on illegal immigrants as a whole. There are plenty of other organizations who post uncredible sources such as numbersUSA. This particular organization does use credible sources. Look at the last page.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:38 AM
 
Location: The Wine Country, CA
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The study was not based on one ethnicity. It was based on illegal immigrants as a whole. There are plenty of other organizations who post uncredible sources such as numbersUSA. This particular organization does use credible sources. Look at the last page.
Yes this may be the way in which this organization is attempting to "spin" the study however, I cannot trust an organization that has a racially identifying term in their name.. It's like quoting the "Tennessee White Americans Law School" and using an article as fact..
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Pa
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1. Illegals have made a choice. The choice to ignore our laws
2. For every job that illegals allegedly pay tax on income, is a job a legal could do at going wage.
3. The hardship illegals endure are self imposed. See #1
4. What ever money illegals pay into the system is dwarfed by the damage done and the expenses of dealing with said damage.
5. The crimes they commit are in the billions. ID theft, tax fraud, working with no insurances,driving without insurance, not to mention the many other crimes they commit.
Its kind of hard to feel sorry for the bad guy. In this case all illegals are the bad guys.
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Old 11-13-2009, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If here illegally; expect to receive the shaft. There is a reason why we have immigration laws.

Needless to say: the US government should have the obligation to seize the assets of said criminal losers prior to their deportation/ban from here.
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