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Old 11-18-2009, 05:03 AM
 
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Okay, imagine this scenario:

The US economy has collapsed, unemployment is 30%, and the government is falling apart. In desperation, the army seizes power, suspends the constitution, and dismisses the government. The new ruler declares as one of his first acts to fix the crisis, to make all illegal aliens enemies of the state. Futhermore, he retroactively strips citizenship from all descendants of illegals, and their children as well, and authorizes anyone to arrest and/or kill them should they be discovered.

If finally given the opportunity, would you yourself use force to finally drive the invaders and their spawn out of our land for good?
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:10 AM
 
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What's funny is Conservative Right Wing good ole boys vote for politicians who send their jobs to China and India so that executives can maintain their 6 figure and million dollar incomes. Basically, the guys who are taking your jobs are the ones you are voting into office. George Bush didn't care that our coutry outsourced jobs to foreign countries and instead praised those efforts.

It's just further proof that Americans vote with their hearts and not their minds. It's all about image. You like the good ole boy rancher from Midland, TX so he can do no wrong in your eyes
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:16 AM
 
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Okay, imagine this scenario:

The US economy has collapsed, unemployment is 30%, and the government is falling apart. In desperation, the army seizes power, suspends the constitution, and dismisses the government. The new ruler declares as one of his first acts to fix the crisis, to make all illegal aliens enemies of the state. Futhermore, he retroactively strips citizenship from all descendants of illegals, and their children as well, and authorizes anyone to arrest and/or kill them should they be discovered.

If finally given the opportunity, would you yourself use force to finally drive the invaders and their spawn out of our land for good?
The pro-border side wants to prevent that scenario. Yes it will come to desperation and all that if this problem isn't resolved, we cannot continue with NAFTA, GATT and the exportation of millions of jobs while the impoverished of the world pour over the borders to get whatever they can.

El Centro, CA now has over 30% unemployment - yet the illegals continue to pour into that city. We cannot sustain wide open borders.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:16 AM
 
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What's funny is Conservative Right Wing good ole boys vote for politicians who send their jobs to China and India so that executives can maintain their 6 figure and million dollar incomes. Basically, the guys who are taking your jobs are the ones you are voting into office. George Bush didn't care that our coutry outsourced jobs to foreign countries and instead praised those efforts.

It's just further proof that Americans vote with their hearts and not their minds. It's all about image. You like the good ole boy rancher from Midland, TX so he can do no wrong in your eyes
Thanks for not answering my question at all.

Was it hard?
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:50 AM
 
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What's funny is Conservative Right Wing good ole boys vote for politicians who send their jobs to China and India so that executives can maintain their 6 figure and million dollar incomes. Basically, the guys who are taking your jobs are the ones you are voting into office. George Bush didn't care that our coutry outsourced jobs to foreign countries and instead praised those efforts.

It's just further proof that Americans vote with their hearts and not their minds. It's all about image. You like the good ole boy rancher from Midland, TX so he can do no wrong in your eyes
You are totally right. Everytime I call Dell customer service, an Indian "named" "Mike" answers my call... All the jobs related to customer service were outsourced to India. Dell, Hp, Apple, IBM..etc etc.

Even Warner Bros is outsourcing jobs to India...

Warner Bros. outsourcing jobs to India and Poland | Company Town | Los Angeles Times
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:55 AM
 
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Okay, imagine this scenario:

The US economy has collapsed, unemployment is 30%, and the government is falling apart. In desperation, the army seizes power, suspends the constitution, and dismisses the government. The new ruler declares as one of his first acts to fix the crisis, to make all illegal aliens enemies of the state. Futhermore, he retroactively strips citizenship from all descendants of illegals, and their children as well, and authorizes anyone to arrest and/or kill them should they be discovered.

If finally given the opportunity, would you yourself use force to finally drive the invaders and their spawn out of our land for good?
That would be a dictatorship. The new ruler canīt suspend the constitution. Thatīs the supreme law of the land and nobody is above it. If the constitution is suspended, the U.S. wouldnīt exist anymore.


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Old 11-18-2009, 05:56 AM
 
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That would be a dictatorship.
Yeah, it would be. That's the idea.

Read the whole post and try to understand it, if you can.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:57 AM
 
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What's funny is Conservative Right Wing good ole boys vote for politicians who send their jobs to China and India so that executives can maintain their 6 figure and million dollar incomes. Basically, the guys who are taking your jobs are the ones you are voting into office. George Bush didn't care that our coutry outsourced jobs to foreign countries and instead praised those efforts.

It's just further proof that Americans vote with their hearts and not their minds. It's all about image. You like the good ole boy rancher from Midland, TX so he can do no wrong in your eyes
And you've seen Obama, Pelosi, etal do anything to bring those jobs back? No. The jobs are still leaving the country. Faster than ever. Oh - and don't forget it was Bill Clinton who signed NAFTA, he and Hillary took plenty of trips to China for the purpose of the corporations looking for cheap labor.

The mistake is to believe there's a whole lot of difference between the two major political parties. Both parties are pawns of the big globalist corporations looking for cheaper and cheaper labor.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:59 AM
 
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To answer the OP's question: if I were unemployed and had no income coming in and facing starvation; under the scenario he outlined--------------I would take up arms. Remember I am 52 years old and; for all practical intents and purposes, my best years have passed so I would have nothing to lose.

The one thing that would give me heartburn would be to go after the American children of illegals-----------if anything, I may try to spirit them to safety. Stripping Anchor Babies of their citizenship using the justice system is one thing; killing them, unless one attacked me first---------I could not.

Suffice to say: I just to God that the illegals leave the USA first. Besides: especially if dealing with an Anchor; how the hell would one tell whether the kid/young adult is illegal or not assuming he spoke correct English? Too much chance for mischief there and innocent people would be at risk.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:03 AM
 
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That would be a dictatorship. The new ruler canīt suspend the consitution. Thatīs the supreme law of the land and nobody is above it. If the constitution is suspended, the U.S. wouldnīt exist anymore.

The American patriots and the Founding Fathers fought to have that Constitution but it's not a guarantee. Fail to teach it and bring in enough people who have no clue what the Constitution is or what it's about, and who is going to fight for it? Massive and growing unemployment with millions of people pouring over the borders to compete with people here for jobs or government handouts and they'll be at each others' throats soon. They won't be fighting for the Constitution.
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