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Old 11-19-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Are you still here? How many times does it have to be explained to you before it sinks in?
You are not going to get me to agree to your bigoted and fascist view. You feel empowered because you have the same 2 people agree with you on every post. You should feel embarrassed that you think it's rude that people can't speak a foreign language in a private conversation amongst themselves in a public setting. There just aren't enough normal people in this forum to tell you what I'm telling you because they realize most of the people in here think like you.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:02 PM
 
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Bear makes a valid point.
For example. Skate boarders. Most are not so bad to deal with. But enough of them are rude and reckless. When I see skater boys I go out of my way to avoid them. Not because I fear them but because I know I might get annoyed with them enough to do something about it.
Dented doors and fenders from flying skate boards are a very real issue.
That's different because the skateboarder might potentially skate in front of you and harm you. How is someone who is speaking Spanish amongst themselves in a private conversation going to affect you? Sorry, it makes no sense. The only way someone is offended by people speaking Spanish amongst themselves is if they are xenophobic. Oh well, I'm not suprised. Most bigots never think they are bigoted.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:32 PM
 
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It's the NEW SLAVERY. Some Americans are OKAY with hiring slave labor.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Pa
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That's different because the skateboarder might potentially skate in front of you and harm you. How is someone who is speaking Spanish amongst themselves in a private conversation going to affect you? Sorry, it makes no sense. The only way someone is offended by people speaking Spanish amongst themselves is if they are xenophobic. Oh well, I'm not suprised. Most bigots never think they are bigoted.
Myself I don't care what language folks speak in privot or public.
I get annoyed when it is demanded that we should all learn spanish to facilitate spanish speakers.
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Pa
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It's the NEW SLAVERY. Some Americans are OKAY with hiring slave labor.
Oh come on. Slaves were not willing partners. It was forced upon them.
Illegals are here by choice. They are partners in the crime.
The americans who are ok with hiring illegals are scum bags and should be jailed for hiring them. Not because it is forced labor or slavery because it isn't. They should be jailed for the laws on the books that they are in violation of.
Calling it slavery gives the illegals a free pass as though they are innocent victims. They are anything but innocent. This is self inflicted begining to end. The victims are the american tax payers.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:39 PM
 
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A) Its not illegal to be an immigrant without satisfying the laid out rules of immigration
if there are zero consequences by reason of reasonable expectations.
B) Refusing to organize a system of return either by bus , rail or flight is message and
position that the exsisting laws of immigration are not to be considered.
C) Any and all discourse failing to address the pointed and deliberate detail of
both A & B above is a smokescreen, a waste of time and most of all an insult to
hard working people and esp their ancestors who went to war worked like beggers and prayed like saints to try to create a workable reasonable life for future generations.
D) The oldtimers wouldn't of let this get so far....shame on us...BUS THEM OUT
E) Offer no mercey for those who hire and start this process without delay
F) And Finnally......If you think this is not ...WAR, THINK AGAIN and take a look at your history books . And what would you like to see the history books describe in the recoursive measures that were taken on this ?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:44 PM
 
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The race card is played when folks don't have any other ligitimate arguement to offer. It is an opiate by which to rally those who cannot, of choose not, to think for themselves.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:49 PM
 
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Oh come on. Slaves were not willing partners. It was forced upon them.
Illegals are here by choice. They are partners in the crime.
The americans who are ok with hiring illegals are scum bags and should be jailed for hiring them. Not because it is forced labor or slavery because it isn't. They should be jailed for the laws on the books that they are in violation of.
Calling it slavery gives the illegals a free pass as though they are innocent victims. They are anything but innocent. This is self inflicted begining to end. The victims are the american tax payers.
You almost have it. Illegal aliens, many who work undocumented in the "service industry", are members of SEIU. SEIU is behind the pushing of this Marxist agenda being FORCED down our throats by an administration and Congress that refuses to adhere to the Constitution. So, in that manner, illegal aliens are indeed part of the crime: as accessories to the creation of enslaving the American people as a whole, and subjugating them to the whims of an evermore tyrannical federal government.

Amnesty will be the payback to illegal aliens for forwarding the agenda of a worldwide Marxist union of the "workers of the world" uniting and stealing the national soveriegnty of these United States of America. It is another step for the "One Worlders".
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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Also, you hear stupid reasons about assimilation. Now even if people are here legally, and speak and read fluent English, they are being bad if they don't live exactly like White Americans or "assimilate" Again, what does this have to do with legal immigration status and English proficiency? This is just further proof that many of the anti-illegal immigration enthusiasts go beyond demanding legal immigration and English skills status. A lot of them are racist and avoid admitting their true feelings and opinions and circumvent that by demanding petty things like "assimilation" and "don't speak Spanish where I can hear it"....it's obvious what their intentions and feelings are. They don't want just legal immigration and English proficiency, they want you to act exactly like them otherwise they aren't American-enought. That's racist! I'm all for protecting our borders, demanding English proficiency and legal immigration but I don't support racism and bigotry and unfortunately a lot of these anti-illegal immigration enthusiasts are racist.
You may not realize this, but "American" does not equal white American. Many African-Americans, Asian-Americans, and Hispanic-Americans want foreigners to assimilate and act more "American", but this does not mean act more white American. So, if Hispanic-Americans want Hispanic illegal aliens to assimilate and act more "American", is that racist of them?

Do you have any comments about the many racist and bigoted pro-illegal immigration supporters?
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:31 AM
 
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Agreed. Unfortunately those who advocate for amnesty and such are determined to lable anyone who opposes them as racists or xenophobes.
In reality, the people who support illegal aliens tend to be the most racist.
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