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Old 11-20-2009, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So what will happen to the employers?

- Nada, Because they can always say: "we didn't know their papers were falsified".
- Without any penalty, the farmers will just hire illegals again and again.
- I bet by the time the Audit rolls through in 4-5 years, new illegals will be in place working.
- Rinse/Repeat.

Viscous cycle, raids do not work, waste of money.
You’re right. Unless they get serious and start sending these employers to prison, and fine their butts off, it will be business as usual.
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Old 11-20-2009, 02:58 PM
 
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As far as I'm concerned, these farmers are milking the system..this has to be one of the cheesiest stories I've read. Still, I understand the temptation to employ underpaid help...after all, "why buy a cow, when the milk is free" ?...

These wealthy rural denizens not only hire illegal help...they're subsidized, too. Call it 'being on the Government teat', if you will. Fifty percent of them admit to malfeasance, and the other fifty percent are liars. "Half and half", I call it. An udder disgrace.

No use crying over spilled milk, though....
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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as far as i'm concerned, these farmers are milking the system..this has to be one of the cheesiest stories i've read. Still, i understand the temptation to employ underpaid help...after all, "why buy a cow, when the milk is free" ?...

These wealthy rural denizens not only hire illegal help...they're subsidized, too. Call it 'being on the government teat', if you will. Fifty percent of them admit to malfeasance, and the other fifty percent are liars. "half and half", i call it. An udder disgrace.

No use crying over spilled milk, though....
Another mooooving post.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Looks like the whiny unemployed Americans can stop complaining because there are going to be plenty of job openings at the Vermont dairy farm! Now get off your butts and get to work!
Well this whiny american actually grew up on a dairy farm and my property borders yet another dairy farm which is farmed by? Gasp, shock ,
other americans with no assistance from illegals. I do admit that I milk for them on occasion, spread manure and even help them plow.
There isn't a dairy farm in my area that uses illegal labor and yet they are making it. Its a struggle but they are making it.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well this whiny american actually grew up on a dairy farm and my property borders yet another dairy farm which is farmed by? Gasp, shock ,
other americans with no assistance from illegals. I do admit that I milk for them on occasion, spread manure and even help them plow.
There isn't a dairy farm in my area that uses illegal labor and yet they are making it. Its a struggle but they are making it.
Kudos to all!
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:21 PM
 
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I grew up in a small town in Michigan there were many farms there. All of the farm hands were legal American citizens. Till this day, it still remains the same.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I grew up in a small town in Michigan there were many farms there. All of the farm hands were legal American citizens. Till this day, it still remains the same.
I am not at all surprised. It is the corporate farms who abuse the system and yet reap the greatest rewards.
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Old 11-20-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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I grew up in a small town in Michigan there were many farms there. All of the farm hands were legal American citizens. Till this day, it still remains the same.
I guess these ARE jobs Americans will do. Who knew?
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Old 11-20-2009, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If i was a whiny unemployed American then yes, I would have my wish.
Trust me: if you got laid off and your unemployment/savings ran out--------you would do 'scut work' if it meant avoiding homelessness. I certainly would.
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Old 11-20-2009, 06:37 PM
 
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So what will happen to the employers?

- Nada, Because they can always say: "we didn't know their papers were falsified".
- Without any penalty, the farmers will just hire illegals again and again.
- I bet by the time the Audit rolls through in 4-5 years, new illegals will be in place working.
- Rinse/Repeat.

Viscous cycle, raids do not work, waste of money.
This just another reason we need a worker permit program for aliens. Then there wont be any fake papers.Canada has one and it works fine,
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