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Old 11-23-2009, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Has anyone here seen this yet? If not, I suggest you do. You only need to watch the movie to understand that the major food companies in the US want undocumented workers here, and that is why you see them in farming and food processing areas.

Having no rights, just happens to workout for many food companies. Smithfield and Tyson even have agreements in place where the ICE can come raid the trailer parks, take some up to 15 illegals but cannot disrupt their food production by taking too many illegals. The top 5 food companies own and process 80% of Americans food using these illegal workers. They show 'inside' films of processing plants that are nothing but Mexicans.

The films main point? These companies also own major positions of government. So while you folks are in here blaming millions of illegals, these companies are rotating workers with no rights in and wasting our tax money with pseudo-raids as an illusion of progress.

My point? Attacking and demonizing these illegals will do nothing to fix the problem, you have to attack these huge powerful companies that advertise in Mexico, lure them in, and then hire them. US companies LOVE workers with no rights.

It is an illusion of epic proportions, not only will you see how unlawful these companies are, but it will also make you think twice before having a McDonalds hamburger or a Tyson boneless chicken breast.

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Old 11-23-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: California
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I would suggest that most of us would agree that those who hire illegals are the primary force behind most of the problem, and that they should be sought out,fined,and face the loss of their business license....I am not paying taxes to ensure the success of any business at the expense of the law.

Go after these people and the problem will do a lot to heal itself.


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Old 11-23-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Yes, corruption abounds. These despicable companies own this country; which is precisely what we have been saying. Illegal aliens and their faithful supporters need to realize that this is a primary factor for the failure of CIR. Why would these companies support amnesty, when amnesty would preclude the exploitation of their workforce, and force them into compliance with our laws? The corporate elite, our government, and special interest groups such as La Raza and the Chamber of Commerce, are all complicit in the raping of this country. They all profit from the illegal cheap labor industry; and I simply donít understand why so many continue to believe otherwise.

Our disdain is not reserved for illegal aliens. They are simply one component. However, they also deserve the ire they receive. After all, no one is holding a gun to their heads forcing them to displace workers and depress wages. They realize they are harming the citizens of this country, but they simply donít care. As long as they can benefit, they could give a damn about others. So yes, they will continue to be a focus of the opponents of illegal immigration. Without their willingness to violate our laws, there would be no illegal immigration. Likewise, without these unscrupulous greedy corporations, and their ownership of our government, illegal immigration could not exist.

Granted, illegal aliens are not the only culprits. However, excusing them would be as unfair as arresting a prostitute while ignoring the involvement of the john.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Has anyone here seen this yet? If not, I suggest you do. You only need to watch the movie to understand that the major food companies in the US want undocumented workers here, and that is why you see them in farming and food processing areas.

Having no rights, just happens to workout for many food companies. Smithfield and Tyson even have agreements in place where the ICE can come raid the trailer parks, take some up to 15 illegals but cannot disrupt their food production by taking too many illegals. The top 5 food companies own and process 80% of Americans food using these illegal workers. They show 'inside' films of processing plants that are nothing but Mexicans.

The films main point? These companies also own major positions of government. So while you folks are in here blaming millions of illegals, these companies are rotating workers with no rights in and wasting our tax money with pseudo-raids as an illusion of progress.

My point? Attacking and demonizing these illegals will do nothing to fix the problem, you have to attack these huge powerful companies that advertise in Mexico, lure them in, and then hire them. US companies LOVE workers with no rights.

It is an illusion of epic proportions, not only will you see how unlawful these companies are, but it will also make you think twice before having a McDonalds hamburger or a Tyson boneless chicken breast.
Proof please.

Till I see some reputable links; I take much of what you state in your post with a large grain of salt. Besides: maybe 5%, tops, of illegals are even involved in agriculture.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Proof please.

Till I see some reputable links; I take much of what you state in your post with a large grain of salt. Besides: maybe 5%, tops, of illegals are even involved in agriculture.
What in my original post do you dispute AZ?

My proof is all in the movie. Go watch it, it will blow your mind. Is food factory style processing/butchering considered "agriculture"?

Here are some links for you as well:

Tyson Foods Charged With Smuggling Illegal Aliens: Springdale Firm Disputes 'Absolutely False' Accusations by INS.(Immigration and Naturalization Service files suit against Tyson Foods Inc.)(Brief Article) - Arkansas Business | Encyclopedia.com (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-81415160.html - broken link)

.... Poultry processor Tyson Foods Inc. and six employees have been indicted for conspiracy to smuggle illegal immigrants into the U.S.(Brief Article) | Food Institute Report, The | Find Articles at BNET


Smithfield Foods Case: Illegal Aliens to be Deported After Jail Time - NC Wanted (http://www.ncwanted.com/sidebars/story/2371764/ - broken link)

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Old 11-23-2009, 11:39 AM
 
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Food Inc Official Trailer [HD]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Food Inc Official Trailer [HD]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eKYyD14d_0
Thanks for posting the video.

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Has anyone here seen this yet? If not, I suggest you do. You only need to watch the movie to understand that the major food companies in the US want undocumented workers here, and that is why you see them in farming and food processing areas.

Having no rights, just happens to workout for many food companies. Smithfield and Tyson even have agreements in place where the ICE can come raid the trailer parks, take some up to 15 illegals but cannot disrupt their food production by taking too many illegals. The top 5 food companies own and process 80% of Americans food using these illegal workers. They show 'inside' films of processing plants that are nothing but Mexicans.

The films main point? These companies also own major positions of government. So while you folks are in here blaming millions of illegals, these companies are rotating workers with no rights in and wasting our tax money with pseudo-raids as an illusion of progress.

My point? Attacking and demonizing these illegals will do nothing to fix the problem, you have to attack these huge powerful companies that advertise in Mexico, lure them in, and then hire them. US companies LOVE workers with no rights.

It is an illusion of epic proportions, not only will you see how unlawful these companies are, but it will also make you think twice before having a McDonalds hamburger or a Tyson boneless chicken breast.
While we all realize an estimated 2% of illegal aliens work in agriculture, nothing in this trailer alluded to illegal immigration. Thus, how is this movie relevant? More importantly, what is the basis for your accusations bolded in your second paragraph? If you have proof, please share.
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Old 11-23-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Here is the exact part of the film about illegals, but you have to watch the entire thing.

@4:00 min it talks about the illegals...how government is cracking down on the illegals but not the companies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctikc...eature=related

@5:44 ICE is arresting Smithfield workers at the trailer parks, agreement between Smithfield and Immigration for 15 workers to be taken per day but cannot disrupt the plant.

The entire movie is available on Youtube for free, WATCH IT before you refute what I say.

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Old 11-23-2009, 12:09 PM
 
Location: California
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Default Not from a movie

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Has anyone here seen this yet? If not, I suggest you do. You only need to watch the movie to understand that the major food companies in the US want undocumented workers here, and that is why you see them in farming and food processing areas.

Having no rights, just happens to workout for many food companies. Smithfield and Tyson even have agreements in place where the ICE can come raid the trailer parks, take some up to 15 illegals but cannot disrupt their food production by taking too many illegals. The top 5 food companies own and process 80% of Americans food using these illegal workers. They show 'inside' films of processing plants that are nothing but Mexicans.

The films main point? These companies also own major positions of government. So while you folks are in here blaming millions of illegals, these companies are rotating workers with no rights in and wasting our tax money with pseudo-raids as an illusion of progress.

My point? Attacking and demonizing these illegals will do nothing to fix the problem, you have to attack these huge powerful companies that advertise in Mexico, lure them in, and then hire them. US companies LOVE workers with no rights.

It is an illusion of epic proportions, not only will you see how unlawful these companies are, but it will also make you think twice before having a McDonalds hamburger or a Tyson boneless chicken breast.

"First Iíll describe the post-raid situation at Swift. All six facilities resumed work on the day of the raids, though at a reduced pace. To replenish its depleted ranks, Swift launched a campaign to recruit American citizens, green card holders, and refugees. It raised wages, provided bonuses to new workers, and paid relocation expenses. As a result, all the Swift plants were able to resume full production within four or five months"

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Labor Market Effects of Immigration Enforcement at Meatpacking Plants in Seven States | Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 11-23-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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"Illegals", as y'all like to call them, make up only a very small portion of the overall themes of "Food, Inc." I watched it yesterday, in fact.
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