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Old 11-30-2009, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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And Americans will keep rousting illegal aliens more and more harshly (preferably legally).
and more and more expensively from a tax dollar standpoint.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:34 PM
 
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and more and more expensively from a tax dollar standpoint.
Nothing could be more expensive or damaging to our nation then allowing them to stay here.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: California
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and more and more expensively from a tax dollar standpoint.
Would you please expand on your theory,with some stats to validate your statement.......

thanks
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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If you data to back that up then maybe that's true, I can only speak from people I know, who would tell you otherwise. Bottom line is if somebody wants to be here, they'll find a way in.



See my comment in the other topic regarding this. I think we both know this would never happen in a million years.
Most would leave if e-verify was implemented across the board. The claim is that they are here only to work so with e-verify there would be no jobs for them. Therefore they will self-deport. That along with a national I.D. that has to be presented to gain benefits as a citizen and re-interpreting the authomatic birthright citizenship fiasco and securing our borders with the military if necessary would make most leave and very few to try to ever enter again.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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and more and more expensively from a tax dollar standpoint.
Maybe it is time for the USA to find out how 'expensive' a nation without illegal aliens would be
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Most would leave if e-verify was implemented across the board. The claim is that they are here only to work so with e-verify there would be no jobs for them. Therefore they will self-deport. That along with a national I.D. that has to be presented to gain benefits as a citizen and re-interpreting the authomatic birthright citizenship fiasco and securing our borders with the military if necessary would make most leave and very few to try to ever enter again.
As you stated...........just that the illegal alien apologists are in deep denial about reality.
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Old 12-01-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Would you please expand on your theory,with some stats to validate your statement.......

thanks
Just look at the federal government budget and see how much we spend annually on border patrol, imprisoning illegal immigrants and in deportations...it's disgusting how much money we waste on that crap....and it does little to stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
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Old 12-01-2009, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Just look at the federal government budget and see how much we spend annually on border patrol, imprisoning illegal immigrants and in deportations...it's disgusting how much money we waste on that crap....and it does little to stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
Flip side: if there were little or no enforcement of our immigration laws----------I can guarantee we (the USA) would be have tens of millions of those insolent losers. Better to have 10 million (and dropping) illegal aliens already here than the former scenario. Needless to say: I personally want the rest of the above criminals out of my country.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Flip side: if there were little or no enforcement of our immigration laws----------I can guarantee we (the USA) would be have tens of millions of those insolent losers. Better to have 10 million (and dropping) illegal aliens already here than the former scenario. Needless to say: I personally want the rest of the above criminals out of my country.
That's pure speculation, if stricter hiring requirements were enforced (SSA ID checks, E-verify, etc.) we wouldn't even have to worry about any of this in the first place and wouldn't have to waste all that money on border enforcement, etc.
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Old 12-01-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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Just look at the federal government budget and see how much we spend annually on border patrol, imprisoning illegal immigrants and in deportations...it's disgusting how much money we waste on that crap....and it does little to stop the flow of illegal immigrants.
What a ridiculous argument! Look at how much we spend incarcerating citizen criminals but it is a necessary evil because we are a nation of laws and utter chaos would rule if we didn't get them off the streets. Should we stop incarcerating citizen lawbreakers then to save money? It doesn't necessarily discourage citizens from continuing to break our laws either but as I said it is a necessary evil.

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