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Old 12-12-2009, 02:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Opinion: Barring illegal immigrants from health plans would hit California hard - San Jose Mercury News

Since we can't legally ban them from ERs, or even charge the a small co-pay it appears anything short of mass self deportation is going to cost CA dearly.
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Old 12-12-2009, 02:10 PM
 
Location: southern california
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medical is on the verge of going broke. out deficit is the cost of medical. do the math.
i credit illegals with the common sense and guts to band together and demand things from the government and employers, we forgot how to do that 40 years ago didnt we?
still hate unions?
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Unionization might help stop the flow of Illegals to jobs (at least in the private sector)but it won't stop them from ripping off social service tax dollars.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:37 PM
 
Location: In the Axis of Time
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It costs alot more to "educate" them.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Thats the price CA pays for making itself a sanctuary state.
The old saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure comes to mind.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:42 PM
 
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The law is only for honest people
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:44 PM
 
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The law is only for honest people
Actually only honest people care about the law. Criminals and their lawyers will manipulate the law to full advantage. In the case of illegals. They break our laws and sue when they are caught.
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Old 12-12-2009, 06:49 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Thats the price CA pays for making itself a sanctuary state.
The old saying an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure comes to mind.
I or my tax paying friends don't remember voting on that.
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Old 12-13-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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Actually only honest people care about the law. Criminals and their lawyers will manipulate the law to full advantage. In the case of illegals. They break our laws and sue when they are caught.
That's a simplistic view of law. Laws aren't always fair, don't always abide by the rules of "good" or "bad", and are subjective.

Nazi Germany, segregation in the American South, apartheid in South Africa, Uganda's anti-gay laws...among others...are extreme examples of how laws are not always for the moral.
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:55 PM
 
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That's a simplistic view of law. Laws aren't always fair, don't always abide by the rules of "good" or "bad", and are subjective.

Nazi Germany, segregation in the American South, apartheid in South Africa, Uganda's anti-gay laws...among others...are extreme examples of how laws are not always for the moral.
Our immigration laws are definitely more than fair. The USA has by far the most legal immigrants of any other country on earth. There are millions of people who want to come here but not everyone can come here.

Illegal immigration is what is unfair and also the family chain immigration is unfair. It's not fair that unlimited numbers from just one country can come here simply because they have some amnestied relative living here who can "sponsor" them and family sponsorship is a joke.

It would be better to reduce overall immigration numbers because it's only fair that Americans have dibs on jobs, and limit immigration to employer sponsored immigration and family immigration to immediate family only -- spouse and minor age children.
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