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Old 12-15-2009, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I donít believe they will be permitted to deny illegals an education. If this bill fails, they will be even more determined to remove illegals from their state. Otherwise, they will be bankrupt.

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A projected budget shortfall of $2 billion has made it a priority to address the cost and the negative fiscal burden that illegal immigration has on Florida's overall budget crisis, Adkins said in a press release.

State taxpayers spend more than $3.4 billion annually on the public education of illegal immigrant children. Over 250,000 illegal immigrant students are enrolled in special instructional classes to teach English at a cost of over $2,200 annually per student. The bill would require proof of lawful residence and citizenship of the United States to attend any public school, charter school, pre-K or educational institution in the state.

"As a state, we have and continue to face tremendous budget deficits. With education dollars continuing to come under intense scrutiny relating to the overall budget, it is only logical that we should be reviewing how the education funds are used and ensure that these funds are available to those students and families who are legal residents and citizens," Adkins said.

Incarceration of criminal illegal immigrants accounts for $89 million annually in Florida's budget. This uncompensated cost figure does not include local jail or related law enforcement detention costs, judicial expenditures and the monetary cost of the crimes that led to the incarceration.

"Florida will no longer be open to illegal immigration and allow for freedom of movement of undocumented individuals in the state," said Adkins.
Fernandina Beach, FL, News-Leader newspaper. The local news source for Amelia Island and Fernandina Beach, FL
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:17 PM
 
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I donít believe they will be permitted to deny illegals an education. If this bill fails, they will be even more determined to remove illegals from their state. Otherwise, they will be bankrupt.


Fernandina Beach, FL, News-Leader newspaper. The local news source for Amelia Island and Fernandina Beach, FL
If no proof of citizenship is required to register a child in school, how do they know how many children are illegally here?

I doubt is those ESOL classes student count, anybody that is familiar with Florida knows many immigrants are Cuban who are always legal residents and Puerto Rican.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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If no proof of citizenship is required to register a child in school, how do they know how many children are illegally here?

I doubt is those ESOL classes student count, anybody that is familiar with Florida knows many immigrants are Cuban who are always legal residents and Puerto Rican.
Thatís easy. Legal citizens must provide the school with birth certificates, inoculation records, parentsí name, address, phone number, employer, emergency contacts, and other information required by each school or state. Illegal aliens are the only students exempt from requirements. After all, the schools arenít permitted to inquire. Itís one of many examples of our two-tiered system. We have one set of rules/laws for citizens, and one exclusively for illegal aliens. So yes, they know the identities of illegal alien students.

Regarding ESL classes - how many children who are citizens of this country speak no English, and only speak Spanish? I would venture to say, not many.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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Regarding ESL classes - how many children who are citizens of this country speak no English, and only speak Spanish? I would venture to say, not many.
Puerto Ricans, Orlando FL has a handful of them

Cubans are granted Permanent residence as soon as they touch American soil and Miami has a very large Cuban population

Rumor has it that people in Miami don't speak English.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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Puerto Ricans, Orlando FL has a handful of them

Cubans are granted Permanent residence as soon as they touch American soil and Miami has a very large Cuban population

Rumor has it that people in Miami don't speak English.
I know you are being sarcastic but still............

Rumor has it that few people named Jose Martinez in the Philippines speak Spanish-------but many speak English (which is correct).
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:37 AM
 
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The wet foot-dry foot law gots to go like the dinosaur... encouraging illegal immigration is retarded at best...
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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I know you are being sarcastic but still............

Rumor has it that few people named Jose Martinez in the Philippines speak Spanish-------but many speak English (which is correct).
So who cares? Just because I'm hispanic don't assume I am stuck in the past with the issues that happened during colonial times. You got the wrong person to discuss Reconquista issues with.

The only way the Philippino's English skills affect us is by the outsourcing is taking place there. They take accent reduction classes and sound much better than those phone agents from India:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CcViRUsrOA
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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Offtopic here: if irks me a whole lot less to see some of our customer support business go to the Philippines vs India since they were an American colony till 1946. Hell; Filipinos/as are half 'Anglo', culturally speaking as it is---------despite many aspects of their culture being based on Mexico's.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:59 AM
 
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Puerto Ricans, Orlando FL has a handful of them

Cubans are granted Permanent residence as soon as they touch American soil and Miami has a very large Cuban population

Rumor has it that people in Miami don't speak English.
Apples and oranges. Puerto Ricans are also citizens. Thus, they would not be included in the statistics for illegal alien students. Cubans are also not included in those statistics due to their ďlegalĒ status. The data specifically involves the costs of illegal aliens in Florida, not the costs of the ďHispanicĒ population.

Rumor also has it, that they choose not to speak English, not that they canít.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:28 PM
 
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The wet foot-dry foot law gots to go like the dinosaur... encouraging illegal immigration is retarded at best...
Especially since Fidel Castro can't even stand up on his own anymore. It's not like the Cubans couldn't defeat him if he's the reason they're fleeing Cuba but obviously he no longer is, no one knows if he's even alive for sure. They come for the money.
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