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Old 12-17-2009, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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please look up in the dictionary what Amnesty actually is.....
Amnesty is what all Dems and McCain want to extend to illegals and we all know that. It is a mass forgiveness. In this forgiveness for being in the nation illegally.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Amnesty is what all Dems and McCain want to extend to illegals and we all know that. It is a mass forgiveness. In this forgiveness for being in the nation illegally.
Except for the little fact that Amnesty would not have the stipulations this bill has...
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:24 AM
 
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please look up in the dictionary what Amnesty actually is.....
Common sense is not very common.
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:25 AM
 
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Amnesty is what all Dems and McCain want to extend to illegals and we all know that. It is a mass forgiveness. In this forgiveness for being in the nation illegally.
Bingo!
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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Is this the same bill or something more?

Secretary Napolitano and USCIS Director Mayorkas Announce Full Implementation of New Law Providing Permanent Residence Eligibility for Surviving Spouses and Children of U.S. Citizens


Release Date: December 14, 2009
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) Director Alejandro Mayorkas today announced that DHS has fully implemented recent legislation allowing USCIS to approve immigrant petitions for permanent resident status in the United States filed by or on behalf of widows and widowers of U.S. citizens and their unmarried children under 21 years old.
“Smart immigration policy balances strong enforcement practices with common-sense, practical solutions to complex issues,” said Secretary Napolitano. “Allowing widows and widowers of U.S. citizens to petition for permanent residence will help keep families together while honoring the spirit of the law.”
“Implementing this legislation allows us to support the widows, widowers and children of U.S. citizens who otherwise would have been denied the opportunity to remain in the United States,” said Director Mayorkas. “These families have already experienced the pain of losing a loved one; now we can help give them a chance to stay in the country that has become their home.”
Previously, a widow(er) had to be married to a U.S. citizen for at least two years in order to qualify as an immediate relative eligible to apply for permanent resident status. The new legislation enables all widows and widowers of U.S. citizens to apply regardless of how long the couple was married. President Obama signed the change into law on Oct. 28, as part of the fiscal year 2010 DHS Appropriations Act.
Since then, the Department has taken swift and efficient steps to implement the revised law—providing guidance to adjudication officers around the world and updating material necessary for applicants to take advantage of these new opportunities.
Today’s announcement reflects Secretary Napolitano’s commitment to working with lawmakers and stakeholders towards comprehensive reform of current immigration laws to provide lasting and dedicated resources for serious and effective law enforcement; a better system for families and workers coming to the United States legally; and a firm but fair way to deal with those who are already here.
A widow(er) qualifies as an immediate relative under the new law without the need to file another petition if the following criteria are met:
  • The citizen spouse had already filed a Petition for Alien Relative (Form I-130);
  • The Form I-130 was pending when the law changed on Oct. 28, 2009; and
  • The widow(er) has not remarried.
The children of widow(er)s who qualify as immediate relatives under the law also are eligible to seek permanent resident status. The new law applies to widow(er)s living abroad who are seeking immigrant visas, and to widow(er)s currently in the United States who want to become permanent residents based on their marriage through adjustment of status.
On June 9, Secretary Napolitano made a series of announcements granting interim relief to widow(er)s of U.S. citizens—including deferred action for two years to widows and widowers of U.S. citizens and their unmarried children under 21 years old—who reside in the United States and who were married for less than two years prior to their spouse’s death.
For more information, visit www.dhs.gov, www.uscis.gov or call USCIS’ National Customer Service Center at (800) 375-5283.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:17 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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To the OP. You lost all credibility when you called it an amnesty bill. There is no amnesty bill. There is an immigration reform bill. The last president to give amnesty to illegals was Reagan. Lets get that straight off the get-go.

I wouldn't call a five hundred dollar fine an immigration reform bill. This bill is an amnesty where 12 million Illegals and their families can bypass our existing system, cancel out their current list of criminal acts including identity theft, by paying 500 dollars if they already know a little English. What a slap in the face to the millions who came here legally.

What's next, put immigration papers in boxes of cracker jacks?
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:24 AM
 
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I wouldn't call a five hundred dollar fine an immigration reform bill. This bill is an amnesty where 12 million Illegals and their families can bypass our existing system, cancel out their current list of criminal acts including identity theft, by paying 500 dollars if they already know a little English. What a slap in the face to the millions who came here legally.

What's next, put immigration papers in boxes of cracker jacks?
you have that right! we already have a green card and diversity visa lottery!

it is another attempt to tank our economy.

certainly, with rising unemployment, the LAST thing this country needs is any kind of amnesty / reform bill at this time. (by the way, nobody is being fooled by calling it reform instead of amnesty). this administration certainly seems to have misplaced priorities.

remember the phrase, "it's the economy, stupid"?
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:32 AM
 
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Got a list of Rs, too?
Didn't Bush support amnesty?
Yes he did, so did McCain, and it pi**ed off a whole lotta people.

I'd like a list of any politican who supports amnesty.
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Old 12-17-2009, 04:11 AM
 
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I wouldn't call a five hundred dollar fine an immigration reform bill. This bill is an amnesty where 12 million Illegals and their families can bypass our existing system, cancel out their current list of criminal acts including identity theft, by paying 500 dollars if they already know a little English. What a slap in the face to the millions who came here legally.

What's next, put immigration papers in boxes of cracker jacks?
Very well put. LOL!
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Old 12-17-2009, 05:37 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Is Bush in the HOuse of Representatives? I thought he had moved back to Texas. As I recall there were 33 Repubican Senators who voted for the 2006 Amnesty Bill with McCain being one of them. Are any of them in the House now?

Really I think they will have to do some tall arm twisting to get the 218 member votes that they need for this one. Did you notice the 218 - 214 vote they had today. That means that all the Republicans voted against it and most of the Blue Dogs, if not all of them. Things are really tough in Congress when you have the majorities the Dems have and they can't get all of them to vote for so many of these things.

They just cannot get over GW. I really think they want him back in the WH since Bubba has been such a failure for them.
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