Thailand has the right Idea

[mrbartlebee]

Originally Posted by that1guy

So you would comprimise your core beliefs just to get rid of the poorest segment of our population over the fact that they don't have documentation? That's a little extreme...

Poor people aren't above the law, regardless of whether they are Americans, legal immigrants, or illegal aliens. We are getting rid of illegal aliens, regardless of their income levels, because of the fact that they are in this country in violation of our immigration laws. By the way, most illegal aliens do have documentation, but their documentation tends to be either stolen or fake, both of which are crimes.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by arpayaso

Or how about this gem, Arizonabear?


Are these comments bashing just illegals?

Originally Posted by arpayaso

Or this?

Originally Posted by arpayaso

Like this?

I stand by what I stated. The truth hurts; doe it not?

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by Benicar

Some people are too intransigent to EVER hear what others are saying. It’s actually rather sad. Given that we are all much too ignorant to engage in dialogue with someone of your esteemed stature, I humbly bid you adieu.

It is rather sad, but I tried to help you. No, not TOO ignorant. Sometimes you make good points. But other times...well...let's just say that you don't really understand. That's all fine and well, except when people say that you should take all things considered. You'd rather not.

[that1guy]

Originally Posted by tulani

I would compromise them, yes... at the drop of a hat.
These poor people are NOT OUR people, they may live here but they are NOT a segment of our population that we should be protecting. They are criminals just by being here. They should be removed from our country any way we can do it.
Extreme? Yes. Invasion and removal usually are.

That's sad. You would compromise your core beliefs instead of finding a viable solution for both sides.

No, it's extreme since it seems to be all or nothing...which is typically not how life works.

[tulani]

Originally Posted by that1guy

That's sad. You would compromise your core beliefs instead of finding a viable solution for both sides.

No, it's extreme since it seems to be all or nothing...which is typically not how life works.

Yes I would. Not sad, realistic!

You see, I don't think we need to find any viable solution that would give anyone a huge reward for breaking the law. I happen to believe that the problems in the illegals home country are not my problems.

This is a one sided issue as far as I am concerned. Our solution to the illegal problem is e-verify everyone, super large fines for those caught employing illegals (possibly jail time too), no social benefits of any kind, and deport all illegals with their anchors - if need be. That's it. Enforce OUR laws and forget about hurting the feelings of the "poor, poor, illegals".

I'm a struggling American like so many others. I worry about MY family and MY country and really and truly DON'T CARE what happens to the illegals once we kick their butts out of our country. If they want change and compromise, then let them work for it in THEIR country, not MINE!

Hell YES it's extreme! Extreme times call for extreme measures. Certainly not normal, but NOTHING is normal in our country these days. Something EXTREME needs to happen to change the course we are on.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by tulani

Yes I would. Not sad, realistic!

You see, I don't think we need to find any viable solution that would give anyone a huge reward for breaking the law. I happen to believe that the problems in the illegals home country are not my problems.

This is a one sided issue as far as I am concerned. Our solution to the illegal problem is e-verify everyone, super large fines for those caught employing illegals (possibly jail time too), no social benefits of any kind, and deport all illegals with their anchors - if need be. That's it. Enforce OUR laws and forget about hurting the feelings of the "poor, poor, illegals".

I'm a struggling American like so many others. I worry about MY family and MY country and really and truly DON'T CARE what happens to the illegals once we kick their butts out of our country. If they want change and compromise, then let them work for it in THEIR country, not MINE!

Hell YES it's extreme! Extreme times call for extreme measures. Certainly not normal, but NOTHING is normal in our country these days. Something EXTREME needs to happen to change the course we are on.

Suffice to say: unless something happens soon.............there will be trouble.

[borderlord]

Originally Posted by tulani

Yes I would. Not sad, realistic!

You see, I don't think we need to find any viable solution that would give anyone a huge reward for breaking the law. I happen to believe that the problems in the illegals home country are not my problems.

This is a one sided issue as far as I am concerned. Our solution to the illegal problem is e-verify everyone, super large fines for those caught employing illegals (possibly jail time too), no social benefits of any kind, and deport all illegals with their anchors - if need be. That's it. Enforce OUR laws and forget about hurting the feelings of the "poor, poor, illegals".

I'm a struggling American like so many others. I worry about MY family and MY country and really and truly DON'T CARE what happens to the illegals once we kick their butts out of our country. If they want change and compromise, then let them work for it in THEIR country, not MINE!

Hell YES it's extreme! Extreme times call for extreme measures. Certainly not normal, but NOTHING is normal in our country these days. Something EXTREME needs to happen to change the course we are on.

Tulani.....Nicely said !
And,enforcing the laws is only "extreme" to those that oppose the rule of law....
BL

[tulani]

Originally Posted by borderlord

Tulani.....Nicely said !
And,enforcing the laws is only "extreme" to those that oppose the rule of law....
BL

Thank you.

And EXACTLY!

[wehotex]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Thailand moves to send Hmong back to Laos - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_thailand_hmong - broken link)
Thailand has the right idea. This is exactly how we should treat illegals in this country.
Round them up and push them back accross the border.

It has been OVER 35 years since the end of the Vietnam war. Why would the thai gov't still be out to get these ppl? wouldn't many of the fighters of that time be dead by now?

[Rembrantx]

Originally Posted by tinman01

Thailand moves to send Hmong back to Laos - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_thailand_hmong - broken link)
Thailand has the right idea. This is exactly how we should treat illegals in this country.
Round them up and push them back accross the border.

Your logic here is bizarre and sad. You have no idea what the Hmong people when through during the Vietnam war. They fought along side the Americans during the secret wars, and in Vietnam, so for these refugees to be sent back into Laos would be a great tragedy for them.

Many Hmong people are still be persecuted in Laos, so it's not a great situation for them their. I know a few Hmong people and have heard some of their stories about what it took to get here, and it was awful. Some were robbed, rapped, murdered, and others had to buy their way to make it here.

I've heard stories of mothers giving drugs to their kids so they wouldn't cry and give away their location when the Laotion army was searching for them. Some of the kids died from overdose because during the panic the mother gave them to much drugs.

Other old Hmong people said that many friends were told to wait at certain air fields so they could be air lifted out and while they waited no aid came but the enemy did come and many did not make it.

so in a since the situation in Thailand with the Hmong and the situation here in the United States with illegal immigrants are to seperate and completely different thing.

The Hmong people are refugees from a war torn county. Illegal immigrants here are crossing the border for economic reasons. The illegal immigrants are not being hunted and persecuted for being a different ethinic background or associated to a particular allie.